Calling out ThinkOfOne

@FMF

Why are you talking about my parents?

You talk about somebody I love. Why can't I talk about somebody YOU love.

You attribute all kinds of conspiracies about someone I love.
Why can't I show you I can do just as well with someone you love.

You TRUST someone and doubt that they would mislead you.
Well, I TRUST someone too and doubt that they would mislead me.

That's why.

You dazzle with our many faceted conspiracy theories.
Let me show you you're the only one who can let suspicion run absolutely WILD and sound reasonable.

@FMF

The New Testament is a document which contributes to the piecing together of history.

Did you answer my question ?

Between the events of a great person's life AND The writing down of the main record of that persons's life, WHO in ancient history has advantage over Jesus and the writing of the epistles of Paul and the Gospel writers?

Who presents a shorter time line between life and death and biographical record of them?

@sonship said
You attribute all kinds of conspiracies about someone I love.

I have attributed absolutely no conspiracies to the historical figure Jesus.

@sonship said
You talk about somebody I love. Why can't I talk about somebody YOU love.

You attribute all kinds of conspiracies about someone I love.
Why can't I show you I can do just as well with someone you love.

Feel free to share your beliefs about my parents.

@sonship said
You dazzle with our many faceted conspiracy theories.
Let me show you you're the only one who can let suspicion run absolutely WILD and sound reasonable.

You have lost me here. Are you still referring to my parents?

@sonship said
Between the events of a great person's life AND The writing down of the main record of that persons's life, WHO in ancient history has advantage over Jesus and the writing of the epistles of Paul and the Gospel writers?

This is irrelevant. None of this is evidence of supernatural causality.

@FMF

I have attributed absolutely no conspiracies to the historical figure Jesus.

Yes you do.

Remember - you could be wrong.
Maybe you DO indeed attribute the Christian church and its gospel to CONSPIRACY.

This is one of the things you could be wrong about, the bottom line of your own beliefs about the character and biography of Jesus Christ.

@sonship said
@FMF

I have attributed absolutely no conspiracies to the historical figure Jesus.

Yes you do.

No I don't. Quote me if you think I did.

@sonship said
Remember - you could be wrong.
Maybe you DO indeed attribute the Christian church and its gospel to CONSPIRACY.

I could be wrong. You could be wrong. Sure. Maybe Hinduism is the true path which would make us both wrong.

@sonship said
Maybe you DO indeed attribute the Christian church and its gospel to CONSPIRACY.

I definitely do. Not to Jesus, but to the people who constructed a religion centred on him.

@FMF

This is irrelevant. None of this is evidence of supernatural causality.

Not everything here involves the supernatural.

As far as I can see you have no explanation for thousands of Jews in the city of Jerusalem to suddenly adopting a new faith.

I asked you why Jesus didn't want to be taken by force to be made a king.
That Jesus the great seditionists didn't, immediately became a part of your conspiracy theory.

"They SAID he did this to further the propaganda about Him". [paraphrasing you]

Conspiracy.

I'm not going to chase you around all night.
I can see that you long to put yourself into a non falsifiable position beyond the reach of debate.

Old stuff.
Thanks anyway for the usual demonstration of your tactics.

@sonship said
@FMF

This is irrelevant. None of this is evidence of supernatural causality.

Not everything here involves the supernatural.

As far as I can see you have no explanation for thousands of Jews in the city of Jerusalem to suddenly adopt a new faith.

I asked you why Jesus didn't want to be taken by force to be made a king.
That Jesus the great ...[text shortened]... nd the reach of debate.

Old stuff.
Thanks any way for the usual demonstration of your tactics.

sonship, do you not want me to share my perspectives on the credibility of the Jesus story? Do you want me to keep it to myself?

@sonship said
As far as I can see you have no explanation for thousands of Jews in the city of Jerusalem to suddenly adopt a new faith.

Who has claimed that they did?

@sonship said
I asked you why Jesus didn't want to be taken by force to be made a king.
That Jesus the great seditionists didn't, immediately became a part of your conspiracy theory.

Sedition is in the eye of the beholder - in this case the governing Romans.

@FMF

I definitely do. Not to Jesus, but to the people who constructed a religion centred on him.

Shall we pretend that that is not what I am saying about you?
The writers of the Gospels weaved a fictional character to make a religion.

Only FMF cares about what is true.
Only FMF concerns for what is real.

Shady motives to everyone else. Certainly shady motives to the people who lied saying that Jesus refused to be taken by force to be a king. It served their propaganda.

Certainly shady motives to those who who say Roman Governor Pontius Pilate found it hard to charge this Man of doing anything seriously wrong against the Roman Empire.

"I hear you all with your accusations of this and that and the other. But in my examination of the Man I FIND NO FAULT IN HIM."

But you say He was executed for sedition probably. That must be a sedition that the man who had the authority to crucify Him or let Him go COULDN'T DETECT.

They didn't have any problem knowing where Barabbas was coming from.

I know. You use to be a Christian once upon a time. I think you should go into making T-Shirts with that on it. You'd probably make a mint.