Originally posted by PinkFloyd I know of no reputable source that convicts Calvin of pedophilia/child abuse. Nor have I found an iota of proof that he ever killed ANYone, nor did he HAVE anyone killed (he didn't have the power). Like Luther, Wesley, and other church fathers, he had faults, but these are recorded. That's the difference in Christians and other faiths---we accept our he ...[text shortened]... re right, they can be sublime; when they're wrong, we're all over 'em and let them know it!
to PinkFloyed
There you go, reading into things with a fault finding attitude, why do you presume that child abuse has only connections to pedophilia, theres such a thing as mental/emotional abuse to children by way of false indoctination.
Originally posted by vishvahetu There you go, reading into things with a fault finding attitude, why do you presume that child abuse has only connections to pedophilia, theres such a thing as mental/emotional abuse to children by way of false indoctination.
So Mr Calvine is an abuser.
Can you give one source which substantiates your claim that Mr Calvin taught a child by way of false indoctrination.
Can you even substantiate that he ever taught a child at all?
Originally posted by twhitehead Can you give one source which substantiates your claim that Mr Calvin taught a child by way of false indoctrination.
Can you even substantiate that he ever taught a child at all?
to TwhiteHead
He teach,s christianity, which teach,s that people burn in hell, and thats child abuse
Look Mr TwhiteHead, could you do your own research, as i dont have time to spoon feed you, about simple things, and in the future, if you ask a simpleton question, i will not respond
Originally posted by vishvahetu He teach,s christianity, which teach,s that people burn in hell, and thats child abuse
But did he teach it to children? That is the issue at hand.
Look Mr TwhiteHead, could you do your own research, as i dont have time to spoon feed you, about simple things, and in the future, if you ask a simpleton question, i will not respond If you need to do research to substantiate your claim, then you do not know whether or not your claim is accurate. So you could well be making false claims. That is child abuse.
Originally posted by twhitehead But did he teach it to children? That is the issue at hand.
[b]Look Mr TwhiteHead, could you do your own research, as i dont have time to spoon feed you, about simple things, and in the future, if you ask a simpleton question, i will not respond If you need to do research to substantiate your claim, then you do not know whether or not your claim is accurate. So you could well be making false claims. That is child abuse.[/b]
Originally posted by twhitehead But did he teach it to children? That is the issue at hand.
[b]Look Mr TwhiteHead, could you do your own research, as i dont have time to spoon feed you, about simple things, and in the future, if you ask a simpleton question, i will not respond If you need to do research to substantiate your claim, then you do not know whether or not your claim is accurate. So you could well be making false claims. That is child abuse.[/b]
If he teaches the doctrine of "hell", then he is indirectly affecting all people and their children. I think that is what Vishva is getting at.
At the same time, I reckon that if he did not uphold the christian ideology, he would've been replaced by someone who did.
Originally posted by karoly aczel If he teaches the doctrine of "hell", then he is indirectly affecting all people and their children. I think that is what Vishva is getting at.
Well in that case we could quite easily accuse just about any major figure in history of child abuse. Similarly, nearly every parent could be accused of the same - including vishvahetu.
Originally posted by twhitehead Well in that case we could quite easily accuse just about any major figure in history of child abuse. Similarly, nearly every parent could be accused of the same - including vishvahetu.
Agreed.
We need more tolerance and understanding, not finger-pointing. The blame-game does not get us anywhere.
He teach,s christianity, which teach,s that people burn in hell, and thats child abuse
Look Mr TwhiteHead, could you do your own research, as i dont have time to spoon feed you, about simple things, and in the future, if you ask a simpleton question, i will not respond
lol~~~ I thought you were seriuos. My bad. If teaching Christianity (or any faith for that matter) what you equate to something as heinous child abuse, you surely must be speaking in jest. That, or you are possessing the blackest, most evil heart in existence.
Originally posted by PinkFloyd lol~~~ I thought you were seriuos. My bad. If teaching Christianity (or any faith for that matter) what you equate to something as heinous child abuse, you surely must be speaking in jest. That, or you are possessing the blackest, most evil heart in existence.
Originally posted by Proper Knob It's the latter i think.
Nah man, he's just naive.
His posts are not thought through properly. Its not good to accuse anyone of that that posts text on a chat site.
But I dont blame you for reacting the way you did to Pink Floyds post.
C'mon Vishva, I know you have the patience and the sensibility to do better🙂
Originally posted by karoly aczel Nah man, he's just naive.
His posts are not thought through properly. Its not good to accuse anyone of that that posts text on a chat site.
But I dont blame you for reacting the way you did to Pink Floyds post.
C'mon Vishva, I know you have the patience and the sensibility to do better🙂
If he (or she) doesn't have sense enough to post before thinking it "through properly", he should stay away from the keyboard. This Vishnuva person, whoever he is, compares religion to child abuse, and that makes him one very twisted f@$#.
Originally posted by PinkFloyd If he (or she) doesn't have sense enough to post before thinking it "through properly", he should stay away from the keyboard. This Vishnuva person, whoever he is, compares religion to child abuse, and that makes him one very twisted f@$#.
Ok. Thats your opinion.
Remember there are over 40 000 denominations of christianity, so its hard to say which particurlar denomination he is commenting on.
If you christians are solid enough in your convictions then you should'nt have any problems with the likes of vishva.
Certainly he doesn't deserve that sort of verbal abuse. Nobody does.
But, of course, that is just my humble opinion🙂
Originally posted by karoly aczel Ok. Thats your opinion.
Remember there are over 40 000 denominations of christianity, so its hard to say which particurlar denomination he is commenting on.
If you christians are solid enough in your convictions then you should'nt have any problems with the likes of vishva.
Certainly he doesn't deserve that sort of verbal abuse. Nobody does.
But, of course, that is just my humble opinion🙂
I have little sympathy for someone who initiates the "verbal abuse", which is what vishnuclown did.
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