02 Jul '07 17:59>
Originally posted by josephwJosephw, it looks for all the world to me like you are conflating two distinct things:
In principal I agree with what you are saying here. But my assertion in this thread is that knowing who we are 'in Christ' is how one overcomes sin.
Even repentance is a work. 'In Christ' we are complete. The very righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, and the law is fulfilled in us.
Col.2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so w ...[text shortened]... ollowing verses.
It is by faith that we received Christ, and it is by faith that we live.
1. Sin and/or sin nature.
2. The damage that living in a fallen world as fallen beings does to the heart of a person.
The fact is that whether or not you are being renewed in your inner man day by day, being transformed by the renewing of your mind, etc. etc., you still get hurt in the world, and as humans we develop our own ways of handling/escaping pain and hurt. Often, because we are human, those methods serve well in the moment (where survival is paramount), but cause long-lasting damage in other areas as we grow and have to relate to the world. I'm thinking here specifically of victims of abuse.
Here on earth, you may be God's child but you don't escape the damage you and others have done yourself by merely living. Belief and conversion does not heal that damage outright in most cases. True, your identity is now with Christ, but the problem is that you can't really experience that in fullness because you do not have the capacity to see yourself or God clearly. How can you know who you are in Christ? The essence of the damage living does to us is that it mars our deepest nature, our core self, that person whom we were created to be, if you will. It's like throwing mud on a painting. Therapy may help you clean it off.
Ignoring your own damage, or waiting for God to just do it is stubbornness itself: your ears are plugged, your vision blurred, your steps faltering. Put simply, and in xian terms: failing to grapple honestly and perpetually with your own damage hobbles your walk with God.