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Spirituality

  1. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    02 May '18 10:27 / 1 edit
    "Carry On Wayward Son" is a rock song by the band Kansas, from the 1976 album Leftoverture. This song, along with "Dust in the Wind" were both written by Kerry Livgren and were arguably Kansas' highest charting songs ever.

    Here are the lyrics:


    Carry on my wayward son
    There'll be peace when you are done
    Lay your weary head to rest
    Don't you cry no more

    Once I rose above the noise and confusion
    Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
    I was soaring ever higher
    But I flew too high

    Though my eyes could see, I still was a blind man
    Though my mind could think, I still was a mad man
    I hear the voices when I'm dreaming
    I can hear them say

    Carry on, my wayward son
    There'll be peace when you are done
    Lay your weary head to rest
    Don't you cry no more

    Masquerading as a man with a reason
    My charade is the event of the season
    And if I claim to be a wise man, well
    It surely means that I don't know

    On a stormy sea of moving emotion
    Tossed about, I'm like a ship on the ocean
    I set a course for winds of fortune
    But I hear the voices say

    Carry on, my wayward son
    There'll be peace when you are done
    Lay your weary head to rest
    Don't you cry no more
    No!

    ...
    Carry on, you will always remember
    Carry on, none can equal the splendor
    Now your life's no longer empty
    Surely heaven waits for you
    Carry on, my wayward son
    There'll be peace when you are done
    Lay your weary head to rest
    Don't you cry (Don't you cry no more)
    No more



    I want to discuss the meaning of this song. Everyone seems to have their own opinion of what this song means.
    (https://www.lyricinterpretations.com/kansas/wayward-son )
    Kerry Livgren became a Christian in 1980, four years after this song was written. He says the song is about searching for the right spirituality for you, but I think the lines

    "Now your life's no longer empty
    Surely heaven waits for you"

    seem to be more about "finding", rather than mere "searching".

    What say you? Does this song resonate for you, and in what way?
  2. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    02 May '18 10:35
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    "Carry On Wayward Son" is a rock song by the band Kansas, from the 1976 album Leftoverture. This song, along with "Dust in the Wind" were both written by Kerry Livgren and were arguably Kansas' highest charting songs ever.
    YouTube : Kansas
  3. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    02 May '18 10:44 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @fmf
    [youtube Kansas]P5ZJui3aPoQ[/youtube]
    Good choice of video, this is nearly identical to the rendition played on rock radio stations in America. Kansas in concert is a treat and I have seen many rock groups in concert and this was, without a doubt, the loudest concert I've ever seen. This band is LOUD in concert. When I saw them, America opened for them.
  4. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    02 May '18 20:18 / 1 edit
    I created this thread in response to at least three threads that have devolved into the usual suspects just sniping and spitting at each other.

    Can we please have a thread without all the childish name-calling and venom for once?
  5. Subscriber divegeester
    Naughtius Maximus
    02 May '18 21:18
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    I created this thread in response to at least three threads that have devolved into the usual suspects just sniping and spitting at each other.

    Can we please have a thread without all the childish name-calling and venom for once?
    There are several threads which are in juxtaposition to the willy-waving-faeces-flicking of the two (well one really) resident twats. If your thread doesn’t attract much interest it’s not because people don’t like you, the website, sonship or the Democratic Party.
  6. 02 May '18 21:20
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    I created this thread in response to at least three threads that have devolved into the usual suspects just sniping and spitting at each other.

    Can we please have a thread without all the childish name-calling and venom for once?
    Are you out of your mind?

    Just kidding.

    I grew up on "sex, drugs and rock-n-roll". I've heard every song ten thousand times. It all sucks for me now anymore.

    "... the right spirituality for..." me precludes "effection...for things on the earth".

    Sorry. I hope I didn't poop on the party.
  7. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    02 May '18 21:29
    Originally posted by @secondson
    "... the right spirituality for..." me precludes "effection...for things on the earth".
    Presumably you mean "affection"?

    It seems a very drastic thing to think and say. Are there things on earth that are, in fact, not included in what you are lumping together under the term "things on earth"?

    Affection for them is "precluded" by your spirituality? Why?
  8. Subscriber divegeester
    Naughtius Maximus
    02 May '18 21:32
    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    Aww what’s the matter old chap?
  9. 02 May '18 21:48
    Originally posted by @fmf
    Presumably you mean "affection"?

    It seems a very drastic thing to think and say. Are there things on earth that are, in fact, not included in what you are lumping together under the term "things on earth"?

    Affection for them is "precluded" by your spirituality? Why?
    You presume correctly.

    I have a strong affection for creation. It's the 'things' on the earth I'm not so fond of. Things that distract from God.

    Do I need to elaborate? The Word of God draws a clear and distinct deference between good and evil. I am but a pilgrim here. Soon I will be going home where my affection is.
  10. 02 May '18 21:51 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Aww what’s the matter old chap?
    It was just one of those knee jerk reactions.

    I'm over it now. It was just an eruption of my mean old self.
  11. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    02 May '18 21:51
    Originally posted by @secondson
    You presume correctly.

    I have a strong affection for creation. It's the 'things' on the earth I'm not so fond of. Things that distract from God.

    Do I need to elaborate? The Word of God draws a clear and distinct deference between good and evil. I am but a pilgrim here. Soon I will be going home where my affection is.
    So "things on earth" is a term you use as a synonym for "evil"?
  12. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    02 May '18 21:53
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Are you out of your mind?

    Just kidding.

    I grew up on "sex, drugs and rock-n-roll". I've heard every song ten thousand times. It all sucks for me now anymore.

    "... the right spirituality for..." me precludes "effection...for things on the earth".

    Sorry. I hope I didn't poop on the party.
    So do you believe music is precluded by "the right spirituality"?
  13. 02 May '18 21:57
    Originally posted by @fmf
    So "things on earth" is a term you use as a synonym for "evil"?
    Are you asking that because you don't know the difference between good and evil?
  14. Subscriber FMF
    Main Poster
    02 May '18 22:01
    Originally posted by @secondson
    Are you asking that because you don't know the difference between good and evil?
    I am asking because you and I presumably have different definitions of "evil".
  15. 02 May '18 22:03
    Originally posted by @fmf
    So do you believe music is precluded by "the right spirituality"?
    Music? Did someone say music?

    Are you trying to lure this discussion down a rabbit hole?