Originally posted by boonon
Hi,
I would say by design.
I have been doing a little research lately on mathematical probabilities.
I am neither a mathematician nor a scientist so the numbers and concepts are a little hard for me to follow.
From what I have been studying the probability of a living cell to form by itself is next to zero.
I know that you are talking about stars and galaxies but I think they fit together with your question (chance/design).
From what I have been studying the probability of a living cell to form by itself is next to zero.
are you talking here bout a modern living cell with all the immensely complex molecular machinery it has or are you talking here about the extremely simple protocell which would be the prelude to the evolution of more complex cells but has absolutely none of the complexity?
Nobody is suggesting that a modern cell just formed “by itself”.
The first protocell/protocells can consists of ( and probably did ) little more than a self-forming 'microsphere' ( including RNA encapsulated inside ) of the type that has proven via lab physical simulations to have virtually inevitably formed on the early-Earth and which would not have nor need complex proteins nor DNA to thrive; just RNA. After that, evolution would inevitably take over and incrementally increase its complexity.
Here is just 3 of the links showing just a bit of the immanence amount evidence that has accumulated over the years out of the intense scientific investigations into this subject although this is barely scratching the surface of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_world_hypothesis
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090513/full/news.2009.471.html
http://www.panspermia.org/rnaworld.htm
“...RNA has the ability to act as both genes and enzymes. This property could offer a way around the "chicken-and-egg" problem. …
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…It was prescient of Crick to guess that RNA could act as an enzyme, because that was not known for sure until it was proven in the 1980s by Nobel Prize-winning researcher Thomas R. Cech (2) and others.
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I know that you are talking about stars and galaxies but I think they fit together with your question (chance/design).
NO, it isn't 'chance versus intelligent design'! Modern science doesn't say that life must have started by “pure chance” or that evolution is “just chance”; both would be inevitable processes in the right natural conditions so no “chance” nor intelligent design.