Originally posted by robbie carrobieI always put a little salt in my porridge, but i won't regress back to being English for i am Cornish.
its a wonderful proverb Noobster! i have watched on youtube many little videos of the native Americans, and have always been impressed by their regard of the environment. One man stated that when one chops a tree down, one destroys not only the tree, but an entire little community as well!
no but the mere fact that you had porridge is clearly ...[text shortened]... ic tendency, and the question of why God permits suffering is a widely debated and vast subject.
So God controls our paths, but we are free moral agents. I don't see how the two can fit together. Surely God is omnipotent and controls everything that ever has or ever will be, or he has no control at all. I fail to see how he can control some parts fo our lives and not others.
You ddidn't answer my questions about blackberiies on my porridge. My choice or Gods?
Originally posted by Proper Knobahh, Cornishman, well thats different! you are about as Celtic as the rest of us! do you guys still profess to have your own King? (i dated a girl from Plymouth just along the water, a beautiful lady, a beautiful place, once they refused to take my twenty pound note in a bakers shop because it was Scottish, so i made them unwrap all the cakes and put them back!)
I always put a little salt in my porridge, but i won't regress back to being English for i am Cornish.
So God controls our paths, but we are free moral agents. I don't see how the two can fit together. Surely God is omnipotent and controls everything that ever has or ever will be, or he has no control at all. I fail to see how he can control some part ...[text shortened]... ers.
You ddidn't answer my questions about blackberiies on my porridge. My choice or Gods?
no the choice to put brambles in your porridge was your choice, there is no such thing as predestination.
God will only control your path to the extent that you shall let him influence your life. for example, consider the flow of time, here is a little diagram.
past <--------------- present <------------------ future
from this we can see that the present become the past and at this moment in time our futures are heading towards us, therefore what WE do at present, influences the future. if you do not believe me climb to the top of your home and jump off, as you descend at approximately 9.81 meters per second , you are influencing your future, for it is probable that you shall hurt yourself and end up in hospital. thus it can be readily asserted that we ourselves are responsible for our future not God. However, let us consider the force that pulls you to the ground to meet your future, gravity. is it wise to ignore this force? certainly not, for pain is unpleasant to most. therefore when we take Gods principles on board, we realise that there are certain principles which we also would not transgress, thus safeguarding our future.
hopefully this makes sense.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRobbie that's as clear as a pool of extremely muddy water. It made sense until you started talking about Gods principles, at that point it all went terribly vague.
ahh, Cornishman, well thats different! you are about as Celtic as the rest of us! do you guys still profess to have your own King? (i dated a girl from Plymouth just along the water, a beautiful lady, a beautiful place, once they refused to take my twenty pound note in a bakers shop because it was Scottish, so i made them unwrap all the cakes and ...[text shortened]... which we also would not transgress, thus safeguarding our future.
hopefully this makes sense.
What is/are Gods principles?
What pirnciples must we not transgress?
How would not transgressing them safeguard my fututre?
And safeguard my future from what?
A few posts back you quoted me this -
(Jeremiah 10:23) . . .I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.
God chooses my path not me, but now you're telling me i control my path. Which one is it?!
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Originally posted by Proper Knobgodly principles are merely biblical principles which are designed for our protection, well being and happiness. for example there is more happiness in giving than receiving. this is a godly principle which when applied shall make us happier. we get the joy of giving, the recipient gets the joy of receiving, happy days! there are principles in marriage, principles for business, principles for recreation, all of which can be applied in any given situation. this is the real practicality of principles over laws, for they are so much very more far reaching and flexible.
Robbie that's as clear as a pool of extremely muddy water. It made sense until you started talking about Gods principles, at that point it all went terribly vague.
What is/are Gods principles?
What pirnciples must we not transgress?
How would not transgressing them safeguard my fututre?
And safeguard my future from what?
A few posts back y ...[text shortened]...
God chooses my path not me, but now you're telling me i control my path. Which one is it?!
how would it safeguard your future, well if you knew you were flying on an aeroplane, would you be happy if the designer in his drawings had not taken into consideration the natural laws and principle of aerodynamics? no, because it would be unsafe to fly, thus Biblical principles are likened to that, they are there for our protection. take for example sexual immorality. adherence to biblical principles can save much grief, unwanted pregnancies, teenage pregnancies, sexually transmitted diseases, broken families, the physiological effects of an abortion, etc etc etc you can be spared all of this through the application of biblical principles.
take the bibles admonition and definition of love. it always considers the interests of the other person, before our own, think what that will do for your relationship with your wife/girlfriend. she will be amazed at your gentlemanliness and consideration, your kind manner and thoughtfulness shall be reciprocated, and you shall be declared happy among men!
the bible also speaks of a great tribulation, which shall come upon the inhabited earth, it will take great fortitude if one is to survive this, thus it is important that we try to cultivate trust in something/someone now. who can we trust Noobster my friend? political element's? the financial system? science and technological advancements? ourselves?
thus my friend, if you have read this far, i really thank you for having taken the time, and the answer is that we are responsible for our actions and with Gods help can influence our future for good!
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks for the post, i'll mull it over and reply soon.
godly principles are merely biblical principles which are designed for our protection, well being and happiness. for example there is more happiness in giving than receiving. this is a godly principle which when applied shall make us happier. we get the joy of giving, the recipient gets the joy of receiving, happy days! there are principles in m ...[text shortened]... s that we are responsible for our actions and with Gods help can influence our future for good!
Originally posted by Proper Knobno, thank you my friend for having taken the time, for so often so much energy is spent on defending the biblical narrative, that we are exhausted and never really get to speak about its merits!
Thanks for the post, i'll mull it over and reply soon.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieperhaps one of your better post's robbie, well explained!
godly principles are merely biblical principles which are designed for our protection, well being and happiness. for example there is more happiness in giving than receiving. this is a godly principle which when applied shall make us happier. we get the joy of giving, the recipient gets the joy of receiving, happy days! there are principles in m ...[text shortened]... s that we are responsible for our actions and with Gods help can influence our future for good!
rec'd