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    @ghost-of-a-duke said

    He will find this post provocative.
    I find it shallow and hollow, like the author.
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    @secondson said
    It would be an embarrassment.
    You boys need to up your game.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    He does seem to have increased his requests for PMs and new threads created about him. (When he is not preoccupied by thumbs down and alerts).

    He will find this post provocative.
    I see he was, provoked that is, to criticize you.

    I saw also dive's repeated requests for PM's. Apparently he needs more attention.
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    @divegeester said
    You boys need to up your game.
    Do you feel insufficiently challenged?

    You're tame. Up your own game.
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    @secondson said
    Do you feel insufficiently challenged?
    Always.
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    @divegeester said
    Always.
    Give all you have to the poor and follow Jesus.
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    @secondson said
    Give all you have to the poor and follow Jesus.
    Is this something you feel strongly convicted about and have done yourself?
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    @divegeester said
    Is this something you feel strongly convicted about and have done yourself?
    Of course. Isn't that what believers are called to do?

    Jesus said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."
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    @secondson said
    Of course. Isn't that what believers are called to do?

    Jesus said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."
    You are telling me, and this forum, that you have personally given everything you own to the poor?
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    @divegeester said
    You are telling me, and this forum, that you have personally given everything you own to the poor?
    How ignorant would that be?

    Have you ever actually read the Bible, more than once?
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    @philokalia said
    The one that comes to mind is Irminsol.

    But yes, many pagan temples and groves where human and animal sacrifice occurred were destroyed.

    Others were preserved, like Stonehenge and the many rock formations in France. Plenty of Roman temples.

    Many Priests and Bishops condemned conversion by force. Ferrer was ordered to rebuild the synagogues of Seville by the Pope and the Spanish Archbishop.

    And we are alive now to talk about the crimes against the Uighurs.
    “ But yes, many pagan temples and groves where human and animal sacrifice occurred were destroyed.”
    That’s very lame, so that’s your position that pagan sites and adherents were all about sacrifice and that’s why they were destroyed by christians.
    How did they sacrifice these humans? Did they burn them alive?
    So it wasn’t a forced displacement of one religious group by another?
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    @philokalia said
    They certainly were not, like, Utopian socialist leftists as we know them today. But they also were not capitalists.

    There is even a particular faction within the Nazi party that were very explicitly anti-Capitalist and actually continued to exist as a very socialist economic movement within them. I believe they were called Strasserists after their faction leader, but ...[text shortened]... n between about the Nazis, sure, but it is not correct to say that they did not dabble in socialism.
    They definitely worked hand in hand with capitalists and harnessed the power of the old imperial capitalist regime rather than overthrow it.
    It’s one thing to draw parallel’s between Fascism and Stalinist Socialism in their subjugation of the individual to the good of the collective. To try to draw a parallel between the race based creed of hatred of the Nazis and any kind of socialist theory or practice is a lie that’s usually restricted to right wing Nazi sympathisers.
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    @philokalia said
    “ And we are alive now to talk about the crimes against the Uighurs“
    What factor are you referencing here? Under what historical circumstance might we not have been alive to discuss the crimes against the Uigurs.
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    @secondson said
    Of course. Isn't that what believers are called to do?

    Jesus said, "If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."
    It's a start.
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    @secondson said
    How ignorant would that be?

    Have you ever actually read the Bible, more than once?
    Have you read the bible at all?

    Or do you just pick spots out and type them in here?

    -VR
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