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Originally posted by ThinkOfOne🙂 Overwhelming evidence to the contrary, okay. I've never seen overwhelming
I don't know the intent of the author. It was embedded in an article about the impact of Christian fundamentalists on politics in the US. Perhaps it would make sense to draw the line of "fundamentalist" at those who hold beliefs even against overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Of course such individuals would likely believe themselves to be fully ratio ...[text shortened]... iefs sound with those opposing their views to be irrational. Such is the nature of the beast.
evidence to the contrary, I've seem people present what they think is a strong
argument, but that is as far as it goes. It is a little funny that 'rational' is applied
to one side of a discussion and irrational to another? So depending on what side
of the discussion your on the other side can get painted badly. To bad that it
cannot be enough to acknowledge that we can agree to disagree, it has to go to
this personal level of insult by attacking the person with whom we disagree.
Do not take this as Christians here don't paint others badly, I've been here long
enough to know that isn't true...I've even shot my mounth off a little more than
I should too. I think it is a human trait we need to over come.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayYes, we all ~NEED~ to ~get along~ as we ~ARE~ family whether one likes it or not, nothing will EVER change such this fact!
🙂 Overwhelming evidence to the contrary, okay. I've never seen overwhelming
evidence to the contrary, I've seem people present what they think is a strong
argument, but that is as far as it goes. It is a little funny that 'rational' is applied
to one side of a discussion and irrational to another? So depending on what side
of the discussion your on the ...[text shortened]... little more than
I should too. I think it is a human trait we need to over come.
Kelly
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Originally posted by tacoandlettuceMan I could forgive you if you came in here and punched me in the face but those little squiggles...Ugh!! I'm going to have to dig deep to fathom enough mental energy to forgive you for those. They are dispicable and I hate them .There . I've said it.
Forgive me with my silly ~'s but it's to emphasize specifically a little impact, as I analyse everything, I express it as well..
Dont take it personally, but I dont see the need for them~~ ..oh there they are.. found them😛
The fruit is but the by product of the plant, and the plant is alive because of the presence of the soul.
Where you find life, you find the soul, and its all temporary.
Some forms of life are born and live and reproduce and die off, all in the space of a one day, and other forms of life, like an oak tree can live for hundreds of years.
Originally posted by karoly aczelOughy huhu =p sorry -yo-, =p you shall never have me -express- with them again! =]
Man I could forgive you if you came in here and punched me in the face but those little squiggles...Ugh!! I'm going to have to dig deep to fathom enough mental energy to forgive you for those. They are dispicable and I hate them .There . I've said it.
Dont take it personally, but I dont see the need for them~~ ..oh there they are.. found them😛
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Originally posted by twhiteheadJust as physical illnesses vary widely as to severity, so do mental illnesses. Many people are able to function reasonably well despite their illnesses, both physical and mental. Just because they can and do is no reason to not label them "illnesses".
My main objection to the conclusion is that 'mental illness' does not usually cover all forms of psychosis. The term is usually reserved for conditions that are not only unusual but considered harmful. Just because someone is lacking in intelligence, or acts illogically does not automatically warrant the term 'mentally ill' or we would all rightly be labe ...[text shortened]... ently act in a logical manner - but who decided that we were supposed to in the first place?
If you reread the quote you'll see that it's not just about not "consistently act[ing] in a logical manner" but "where normal judgment processes for deciding what is real and unreal are suspended...[and] Logic is suspended even in the face of overwhelming contradictions."
What do you make of the example I cited earlier:
For example, I remember one poster who kept insisting that "the truth will make you free" refers to freedom from the penalty of sin rather than freedom from the slavery of committing sin. This despite the fact that the passage was provided and the text clearly states otherwise. It was quite stunning.
John 8:32-34
So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free...Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
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Originally posted by KellyJayActually many arguments are made that are not "rational" and not just about religion. It's just a fact. To deny this is disingenuous and/or absurd as is the idea that it should always "be enough to acknowledge that we can agree to disagree." Seems like this type of thinking keeps both individuals and society as a whole from progressing.
🙂 Overwhelming evidence to the contrary, okay. I've never seen overwhelming
evidence to the contrary, I've seem people present what they think is a strong
argument, but that is as far as it goes. It is a little funny that 'rational' is applied
to one side of a discussion and irrational to another? So depending on what side
of the discussion your on the little more than
I should too. I think it is a human trait we need to over come.
Kelly
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneChrist once went to a man known as a lunatic and hugged the man, the moment after that, this man who had daily been seen thrashing his own skin and howling in caves, came and supped with his disciples, and followed Christ, being he was restored his conscious truth of him, free from the bondage claiming him captive to demons and conditioned mental "beliefs"..
Just as physical illnesses vary widely as to severity, so do mental illnesses. Many people are able to function reasonably well despite their illnesses, both physical and mental. Just because they can and do is no reason to not label them "illnesses".
If you reread the quote you'll see that it's not just about not "consistently act[ing] in a logical m ..Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."[/quote]
Originally posted by tacoandlettuceWas all this documented in the Bible? If so, where?
Christ once went to a man known as a lunatic and hugged the man, the moment after that, this man who had daily been seen thrashing his own skin and howling in caves, came and supped with his disciples, and followed Christ, being he was restored his conscious truth of him, free from the bondage claiming him captive to demons and conditioned mental "beliefs"..