1. Standard memberDasa
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    So what’s the solution for the errors in Christianity….I will quickly list the errors again and then offer some suggestion for rectifying the problem:

    1. Jesus condemned animal slaughter and meat eating.

    2. Jesus was not the Supreme Lord, but spiritual teacher.

    3. The body of Jesus did not raise from the grave.

    4. Jesus didn’t die to take away our sins, but did die trying to make us sinless.

    5. Jesus didn’t perform all those miracles.

    6. A person can only absolve their sins by the purifying process of the spiritual life.

    7. Jesus travelled when a young man and studied Vedanta.

    8. We don’t have ‘one” life but many many lives, (transmigration of the soul is a reality)

    9. The bible does not contain the authorized pure teachings of Jesus. (but the altered version)

    10. The ruling class (politicians) and the religious hierarchy compiled the Bible according to their materialistic agenda.

    11. Each living being is already an eternal spiritual entity, and the church has no power to make someone immortal.

    12. Self appointment to spiritual authority through the election process is bogus.

    13. The teachings of Islam Christianity and Judaism are misdirecting the spiritual welfare of the people.

    14. Vedanta is the first and only authorized original teaching of god and the spiritual life. (all others are substitute.)

    15. The old Testament is a mish/mash of superstition and myth.

    16. By default there is some truth in Islam Christianity and Judaism, but there are too many false teachings and these misdirect the people in true understanding.

    So what is the best thing to do when there are errors in the teachings of a religion that a person follows!…well for a start the errors can be eliminated, and that would be a great benefit, or the person if they are serious about the development of their spiritual life could study the Vedanta teachings and take advantage of the knowledge therein, and practice the purifying process to raise their consciousness.

    The spiritual process is a reality and can be actualized by everyone who participates, so there is no need for blind faith, but there are some requirements for the process to be quickened, and they are:

    1. make a decision to be honest with self, because self deception is an obstacle on the spiritual path and make sure you have the correct motivation for studying Vedanta, and that motivation should be to understand God in truth and love without any hidden ego agenda.

    2. Studying Vedanta whilst clinging to false world beliefs is self defeating and must be given up, because the truth of Vedanta will turn your false beliefs upside down.

    3. Vedanta is the perfect authority of your spiritual life, and to study Vedanta, thinking it is anything less is also self defeating.

    4. When approaching Vedanta there are many teachings and translations by various authors, and not all are bonafide, so I would direct you to any translations by “His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Srila Prubhupada”

    5. Going it alone and studying Vedanta can be difficult, and it is required that the new student have personal help with the understanding of many of the precepts and teachings, because the knowledge is of the spiritual nature and may seem foreign at first, because describing the transcendental is describing something the conditioned senses and mind cannot perceive initially…..but the understanding does come and its wonderful and life altering.

    6. The student doesn’t challenge Vedanta because the understanding is not clear, but they discuss and learn with an open heart and mind……..imagine studying nuclear physics as a new student, would you challenge everything the professor told you, or would you enquire submissively.

    more later
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    02 Nov '10 17:43
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    more later[/b]
    What? Leave us hanging on the edge of our seats will you? 😠
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    02 Nov '10 20:32
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    So what’s the solution for the errors in Christianity….I will quickly list the errors again and then offer some suggestion for rectifying the problem:

    1. Jesus condemned animal slaughter and meat eating.

    2. Jesus was not the Supreme Lord, but spiritual teacher.

    3. The body of Jesus did not raise from the grave.

    4. Jesus didn’t die to take away ...[text shortened]... ou challenge everything the professor told you, or would you enquire submissively.

    more later
    Are you familiar with the term "TROLL"?
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    02 Nov '10 20:55
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    So what’s the solution for the errors in Christianity….I will quickly list the errors again and then offer some suggestion for rectifying the problem:

    1. Jesus condemned animal slaughter and meat eating.

    2. Jesus was not the Supreme Lord, but spiritual teacher.

    3. The body of Jesus did not raise from the grave.

    4. Jesus didn’t die to take away ...[text shortened]... ou challenge everything the professor told you, or would you enquire submissively.

    more later
    Why bother? I stopped reading at about point 1 because of the absolute lack of argument or proof.
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    02 Nov '10 23:55
    "Errors"? Funny you should call that list "errors".

    I call them "lies".

    And I say to you this day that if you cause even one person to fall from grace because of your lies, you will surely never ever see your "nirvana". I'm not so concerned for your soul, you seem determined to throw it away. It's the souls of those whom you confuse with your lies that I'm concerned about.
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    03 Nov '10 00:00
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    So what’s the solution for the errors in Christianity….I will quickly list the errors again and then offer some suggestion for rectifying the problem:

    1. Jesus condemned animal slaughter and meat eating.

    2. Jesus was not the Supreme Lord, but spiritual teacher.

    3. The body of Jesus did not raise from the grave.

    4. Jesus didn’t die to take away ...[text shortened]... ou challenge everything the professor told you, or would you enquire submissively.

    more later
    (((((((((((((((((AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG))))))))))))))))))))!!!!

    You say that Jesus died NOT on the cross?

    ((((((((((WHAT)))))))))))) ?
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    03 Nov '10 01:40
    Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
    (((((((((((((((((AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHG))))))))))))))))))))!!!!

    You say that Jesus died NOT on the cross?

    ((((((((((WHAT)))))))))))) ?
    I never said jesus didnt die on the cross.
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    03 Nov '10 01:531 edit
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    I never said jesus didnt die on the cross.
    3. The body of Jesus did not raise from the grave. " ((((WHAT))))?! "

    4. Jesus didn’t die to take away our sins, but did die trying to make us sinless. " ((((WHAT))))?! "

    5. Jesus didn’t perform all those miracles. " ((((WHAT))))?! "
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    I love the smell of dissidence in the morning... The smell, you know that gasoline smell... Smells like, victory
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    lol
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    03 Nov '10 02:26
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    When approaching Vedanta there are many teachings and translations by various authors, and not all are bonafide, so I would direct you to any translations by “His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Srila Prubhupada”
    Right. So you agree with His Divine Grace about the proper role of women, and about their prospects for spiritual growth?

    http://www.prabhupadavani.org/main/Conversations/031.html

    "But because women are less intelligent, they should remain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son. Then she is first-class. That is the injunction. Woman should remain dependent in childhood upon first-class father, in youthhood upon first-class husband, and in old age upon first-class son. Woman is never independent. If she becomes independent, her life is not very good. She must agree to remain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son-three stages."
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    03 Nov '10 02:321 edit
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Right. So you agree with His Divine Grace about the proper role of women, and about their prospects for spiritual growth?

    http://www.prabhupadavani.org/main/Conversations/031.html

    "But because women are less intelligent, they should remain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son. Then she is first-class. That is the inj ...[text shortened]... emain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son-three stages."
    ((((LOL))))

    As if a woman could not do what a man can. HillllllllArious!

    One thing a man cannot do, lest by some rocky horror concept of implanting in a fella an embryo, that is have a child, in the womb..
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    Originally posted by bbarr
    Right. So you agree with His Divine Grace about the proper role of women, and about their prospects for spiritual growth?

    http://www.prabhupadavani.org/main/Conversations/031.html

    "But because women are less intelligent, they should remain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son. Then she is first-class. That is the inj ...[text shortened]... emain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son-three stages."
    Sounds like a disciple of Paul of Tarsus.
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    03 Nov '10 07:48
    Originally posted by bbarr
    Right. So you agree with His Divine Grace about the proper role of women, and about their prospects for spiritual growth?

    http://www.prabhupadavani.org/main/Conversations/031.html

    "But because women are less intelligent, they should remain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son. Then she is first-class. That is the inj ...[text shortened]... emain dependent on first-class father, first-class husband, and first-class son-three stages."
    You have taken this information at face value and this will not give you the proper understanding.


    This is perfect instruction for people living in a perfect society, but today a woman in an atheistic family cannot follow this instruction because her husband is misdirecting the family by his atheism so he is not a first class person.

    Being dependant on first class husband presents a wonderfull life for the wife, but i think you have assumed that dependant means no freedom, but this is not so.
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    03 Nov '10 08:19
    Originally posted by vishvahetu
    You have taken this information at face value and this will not give you the proper understanding.


    This is perfect instruction for people living in a perfect society, but today a woman in an atheistic family cannot follow this instruction because her husband is misdirecting the family by his atheism so he is not a first class person.

    Being dependa ...[text shortened]... for the wife, but i think you have assumed that dependant means no freedom, but this is not so.
    Your Divine Grace claimed that women are less intelligent than men, and that because they are less intelligent, it is best if they are dependent upon their father, then their husband, then their son.

    Do you agree with your Divine Grace that women are less intelligent than men?

    Do you agree that in a perfect society women should remain dependent in the way your Divine Grace claims?
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