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Originally posted by @velnsWould you exist without oxygen?
Would it exist?
Originally posted by @velnsThe Bible is a compilation of 66 books, written by around 40 diffent people over a span of around 1500 years. It has history, poetry, lamentations, divine inspiration and so on.
I’m not sure then what you meant by this in the context of you saying that the bible is not necessary of salvation?
[b]Originally posted by @kellyjay
.... for the letter kills but the Spirit gives us life.[/b]
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI’m not sure how your analogy is pertinent to the op?
Would you exist without oxygen?
Originally posted by @kellyjayI do get that, but if as you said earlier, that god saves without the bible, then why is it required? Why doesn’t god save without it all the time?
The Bible is a compilation of 66 books, written by around 40 diffent people over a span of around 1500 years. It has history, poetry, lamentations, divine inspiration and so on.
Like a body without a soul and spirit is dead, so to just the letters of the book. Getting all doctrines correct and missing the love is worthless.
God is the creator of the ...[text shortened]... about. If all you do is read the words missing the Spirit of God you will miss the whole point.
Originally posted by @kellyjaySo would it be right to say you believe your god figure "saves" people even if they are unaware of Jesus as portrayed in scripture, having read it?
People meet the Lord having never read scripture so yes.
Originally posted by @velnsHe does, being saved is getting right with God through Jesus Christ. The scriptures teaches us about God, but God has to actually cleanse us from our sin.
I do get that, but if as you said earlier, that god saves without the bible, then why is it required? Why doesn’t god save without it all the time?
Originally posted by @velnsYes, I did, and he did not say the Bible was superfluous to salvation.
No, KellyJay who I believe is a Christian. Did you see his post above?
Originally posted by @kellyjayHow is this possible "having never read scripture"? Where else is the doctrine about Jesus Christ and "salvation" to be found aside from the Bible?
He does, being saved is getting right with God through Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by @suzianneI already said that people like you believe the Bible should not be defined by the words it contains.
No, the Bible should not be defined by what YOU claim the words mean. You never fail to put your sick twist on what the Bible is saying.
Why do you ignore this every single time I've told you this?
Originally posted by @eladarYou could always try reading what I post and then react accordingly, instead of whatever it is you're doing here. Try not to let your fantasies, and whatever else you believe, twist what is said into what you desperately want to hear. Same with the Bible and your fantasies regarding it.
I already said that people like you believe the Bible should not be defined by the words it contains.
Not sure what you were trying to do here, but that's ok, it is always good to see you following me. Just try to keep your need to get naked after reading my posts to yourself.
Originally posted by @velnsSalvation is God dependent not Bible dependent, God can use whatever He wants, but
I do get that, but if as you said earlier, that god saves without the bible, then why is it required? Why doesn’t god save without it all the time?
Originally posted by @kellyjayThe only way to God is through Jesus, you tell us. The story of Jesus is only in the Bible. There is no 'knowledge' about Jesus that can be obtained elsewhere. So, if someone has not read the Bible, and doesn't know Jesus, how can they meet God if the only way to God is through Jesus?
Salvation is God dependent not Bible dependent, God can use whatever He wants, but the bottom line is He is the one saving. Scripture is used, can be used for more than just salvation.
Originally posted by @kellyjayI’m talking about your first post in this thread where you replied to my OP asking if Christianity would exist without the bible and you said with this:
When you say save without the Bible what are you driving at?
Originally posted by @suzianneNo that was indeed my term. But KellyJay did say this:
Yes, I did, and he did not say the Bible was superfluous to salvation.