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    30 May '18 18:46
    Originally posted by @eladar
    I thought it was Bush's fault.
    Nope, it's Jeb's fault.

    How could anyone lose to Trump?
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    30 May '18 18:461 edit
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    It's the fault of every Republican president who ever lived.
    Amen brother! 😵

    But can we say, especially Reagan, Bush, and Trump?

    Everyone forgets about Reagan.
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    30 May '18 20:111 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Funny stuff.

    I don't know of anyone who does not agree that poverty is a result of human failings.

    Who or what then should we blame?
    Whodey, you know whom *I* would blame, or you *should* know.

    As the gap between rich and poor becomes wider, there are many "working poor" who fall through the cracks into poverty and homelessness. That any "haves" should blame this on the "have-nots" themselves is unconscionable.

    This boils down to one thing. WWJD?

    You KNOW what Jesus would do. But you'd rather have your tax cut and corporate tax cuts.
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    30 May '18 20:35
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Whodey, you know whom *I* would blame, or you *should* know.

    As the gap between rich and poor becomes wider, there are many "working poor" who fall through the cracks into poverty and homelessness. That any "haves" should blame this on the "have-nots" themselves is unconscionable.

    This boils down to one thing. WWJD?

    You KNOW what Jesus would do. But you'd rather have your tax cut and corporate tax cuts.
    Jesus would neither raise taxes nor cut taxes. Jesus was not political.

    You, on the other hand, worship a political god.
  5. Standard memberTom Wolsey
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    30 May '18 20:412 edits
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    You KNOW what Jesus would do. But you'd rather have your tax cut and corporate tax cuts.
    Who should a person care more about.

    a) A complete stranger from a foreign land with unknown motives, asking for money
    b) Your family (including yourself)
    c) A fellow citizen with unknown motives, asking for money

    Remember, by picking one, you are placing their importance above the rest.
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    30 May '18 21:493 edits
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Nearly half of all Christians in the United States think that a person's poverty is due to lack of effort.

    A poll by The Washington Post and the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 46 percent of Christians see poverty as the result of individual failings.

    "There's a strong Christian impulse to understand poverty as deeply rooted in morality — ...[text shortened]... /publications/freethought-today/item/30451-christians-are-more-likely-to-blame-poverty-on-effort
    "There are three kinds of lies -
    A lie,
    a damn lie,
    and a statistic."

    Anonymous - learned in my college Statistics class.
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    30 May '18 21:51
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Whodey, you know whom *I* would blame, or you *should* know.

    As the gap between rich and poor becomes wider, there are many "working poor" who fall through the cracks into poverty and homelessness. That any "haves" should blame this on the "have-nots" themselves is unconscionable.

    This boils down to one thing. WWJD?

    You KNOW what Jesus would do. But you'd rather have your tax cut and corporate tax cuts.
    Yes, Jesus would run for political office and tax all of the wealth out of the Roman empire.

    Good call Suzy.

    But then, that is not how the story went, is it?
  8. SubscriberGhost of a Duke
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    31 May '18 06:41
    Originally posted by @sonship
    "There are three kinds of lies -
    A lie,
    a damn lie,
    and a statistic."

    Anonymous - learned in my college Statistics class.
    Benjamin Disraeli, not anonymous.
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    31 May '18 07:48
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Benjamin Disraeli, not anonymous.
    Thanks. Anonymous with me no longer.
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    31 May '18 07:51
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Thanks. Anonymous with me no longer.
    Do you have any thoughts on Christians and poverty sonship?
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    31 May '18 07:52
    Originally posted by @sonship
    Thanks. Anonymous with me no longer.
    No worries. 🙂

    Use to quote that myself back in my old Sociology days.
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    31 May '18 09:062 edits
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Amen brother! 😵

    But can we say, especially Reagan, Bush, and Trump?

    Everyone forgets about Reagan.
    What was so bad about Reagan? Bush 43 was a disaster, his father was not much better, but I think Reagan did a good job as president.
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    31 May '18 10:03
    Originally posted by @romans1009
    What was so bad about Reagan? Bush 43 was a disaster, his father was not much better, but I think Reagan did a good job as president.
    I'm just putting up the top 3 GOP candidates Dims hate the most, not necessarily in that order, although it is safe to say that the most recent is the most hated.
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    31 May '18 11:20
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    I notice you cannot address the issue.
    He (whodey) cannot even dress himself.
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    31 May '18 11:24
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Benjamin Disraeli, not anonymous.
    "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" often attributed to Mark Twain.
    But Mark Twain attributed it to Disraeli !
    However there is no evidence that Disraeli ever said it let alone invented it.

    (I know this because I was pulled up on it in a pub quiz)
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