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Originally posted by dystoniac
I'm claiming that you are an idiot. Are you gay?
You like to say 'facts are facts'. Are you claiming that the U.S. Constitution is "God's work"? Is that one of your "facts"?

Don't run away from this one. You are God's Messenger after all. Yes?

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Originally posted by FMF
You like to say 'facts are facts'. Are you claiming that the U.S. Constitution is "God's work"? Is that one of your "facts"?

Don't run away from this one. You are God's Messenger after all. Yes?
I'll answer your question if you admit that you are gay, if you are, in fact, gay....are you gay?

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Originally posted by dystoniac
I'll answer your question if you admit that you are gay, if you are, in fact, gay....are you gay?
Are you claiming that the U.S. Constitution is "God's work"? Is it one of the "facts" you often talk about?

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Originally posted by FMF
Are you claiming that the U.S. Constitution is "God's work"? Is it one of the "facts" you often talk about?
The US Constitution was framed by men with theocracy as the pillars of democracy.

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Originally posted by dystoniac
The US Constitution was framed by men with theocracy as the pillars of democracy.
Do you claim that the Italian, Danish, Tunisian, Japanese, Irish and Indonesian Constitutions are also "God's work"? God is mentioned very prominently in the 1945 Indonesian constitution.

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Originally posted by FMF
Do you claim that the Italian, Danish, Tunisian, Japanese, Irish and Indonesian Constitutions are also "God's work"? God is mentioned very prominently in the 1945 Indonesian constitution.
No claims on those countries you mention...I thought Indonesians worshipped Allah and not God...because they are not one and the same....did you know this?

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Originally posted by dystoniac
No claims on those countries you mention...I thought Indonesians worshipped Allah and not God...because they are not one and the same....did you know this?
The 1945 Pancasila constitution asserts monotheism and guarantees the frreedom of worship to five named religions.

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Originally posted by dystoniac
No claims on those countries you mention...
So is your claim about the U.S. a real claim, or just a carried-away-by-the-moment claim? Was the formation of the U.S. predicted in the Bible?

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Originally posted by dystoniac
I thought Indonesians worshipped Allah and not God...because they are not one and the same....did you know this?
"Allah" is the translation of the word "God". Other words used here are Yaweh and Tuhan.

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Originally posted by FMF
The 1945 Pancasila constitution asserts monotheism and guarantees the frreedom of worship to five names religions.

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Originally posted by FMF
So is your claim about the U.S. a real claim, or just a carried-away-by-the-moment claim? Was the formation of the U.S. predicted in the Bible?
Yes and Yes. God allowed America to become great to save the world's arse on more than one occasion.

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Originally posted by FMF
"Allah" is the translation of the word "God". Other words used here are Yaweh and Tuhan.

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Originally posted by dystoniac
"Five-named-religion"???? Is that Shia-Sunni-Pashtun-Farsi-Talibalism?
No. I am surprised that, for a Christian who talks a lot about the fate and status of Christians around the world, you are unaware of the 1945 Indonesian constitution which explicitly enshrines the rights of Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims. It - or something similar, at least - really ought to have been looked at as a possible paradigm for similar multi-faith nations, with pious and devout populations, that wished to plot a secular course in the world.

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Originally posted by dystoniac
No, sorry, but my God is not the same God as bin-Laden's Allah..Islamist-fascists can't have their camel burgers and eat it too
Well, no number of half-racist quips from you, will change what words mean. Allah, Yaweh, Tuhan, God. These are all synonyms, whether you like it or not. And regardless of whether you can retain any common decency when replying or not.

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Originally posted by FMF
No. I am surprised that, for a Christian who talks a lot about the fate and status of Christians around the world, you are unaware of the 1945 Indonesian constitution which explicitly enshrines the rights of Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus and Muslims. It - or something similar, at least - really ought to have been looked at as a possible paradigm for ...[text shortened]... h nations, with pious and devout populations, that wished to plot a secular course in the world.