Cross Or Stake ?

Originally posted by daniel58
It has to happen that way, He foresaw it, so He couldn't have been killed any other way.

So "let's just say" he did die another way. So if so, his death would have been for nothing..Right?

Originally posted by galveston75
So "let's just say" he did die another way. So if so, his death would have been for nothing..Right?

I don't think His death would've been for nothing, but it happened that way because that's how He wanted it.

Originally posted by menace71
Was Jesus placed on a cross or a stake? I was noticing that J-Dubs believe that Christ was hung from a stake rather than a cross. The Watchtower.org states official J-dub beliefs and this is one of them. What does history say? How did Romans crucify people? This is a subject I'm not 100% on.






Manny

A better question is why do so many christians wear a symbol of the murder weapon around their necks. This morbid behavior may have its roots in the bible somewhere, but it seems like loving our neighbors looks better and with a more harmonious outcome to boot.

Originally posted by joe beyser
A better question is why do so many christians wear a symbol of the murder weapon around their necks. This morbid behavior may have its roots in the bible somewhere, but it seems like loving our neighbors looks better and with a more harmonious outcome to boot.

It's too show that we're Christians.

Originally posted by daniel58
It's too show that we're Christians.

Showing to whom?

I've always though about the cross. Its kinda like hanging an electric chair around your neck. On the contrary however it I guess it should be the symbol that reminds of what Christ did. Obviously we don't want to worship the symbol though.






Manny

Originally posted by menace71
I've always though about the cross. Its kinda like hanging an electric chair around your neck. On the contrary however it I guess it should be the symbol that reminds of what Christ did. Obviously we don't want to worship the symbol though.






Manny

'like hanging an elestric chair aound your neck'-classic lol
I've often thought why some churches have a bloody and dying,tortured , jew nailed to a cross . Blood running down in his neck in streaks. Very weird, if you think about it.

Originally posted by menace71
I've always though about the cross. Its kinda like hanging an electric chair around your neck. On the contrary however it I guess it should be the symbol that reminds of what Christ did. Obviously we don't want to worship the symbol though.






Manny

We're showing it to non-christians, we aren't "worshipping" it, it is our sign of Faith.

Originally posted by daniel58
We're showing it to non-christians, we aren't "worshipping" it, it is our sign of Faith.

You may not worship it yourself but many millions of others do. I personally have seen many kiss it and say prayers to it. You only pray to God thru Jesus. How do you view the virgin Mary?

Originally posted by daniel58
We're showing it to non-christians, we aren't "worshipping" it, it is our sign of Faith.

but Daniel my friend, the cross is not the identifying mark of true Christianity, love is.

Originally posted by galveston75
You may not worship it yourself but many millions of others do. I personally have seen many kiss it and say prayers to it. You only pray to God thru Jesus. How do you view the virgin Mary?

Right, you can kiss it and say prayers, IN FRONT OF IT, but you are not worshipping it. The mother of God.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
but Daniel my friend, the cross is not the identifying mark of true Christianity, love is.

Well... I'm talking about something you can wear

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
but Daniel my friend, the cross is not the identifying mark of true Christianity, love is.

Also a lot of non christians were hung on the torture contraptions. If anything it is the opposite of a symbol of love. I can not see Daniels cross through this computer screen but I can tell Daniel is truly a person of love and compassion for the fellow man.

Originally posted by daniel58
Well... I'm talking about something you can wear

But Daniel..did you read any of these scriptures that I posted earlier?

Lev 26:1, Duet 4:25,26, Ezek 7:20, 14:6, Jer 10:14,15, Isaiah 42:8, 44: 13-19, 1 John 5:21, Acts 15:20 17:29, 1Cor 5:11, 6:16, 10:14, Rev 21:8, Ps 115:4-8.

Originally posted by galveston75
But Daniel..did you read any of these scriptures that I posted earlier?

Lev 26:1, Duet 4:25,26, Ezek 7:20, 14:6, Jer 10:14,15, Isaiah 42:8, 44: 13-19, 1 John 5:21, Acts 15:20 17:29, 1Cor 5:11, 6:16, 10:14, Rev 21:8, Ps 115:4-8.

it's not an idol but image, like a picture.