Curses for Disobedience

@kellyjay said
While you call me names that have to
do with me as a person, how are right-wing zealots defined, by what actions are
those people known for, why did you categorize me as one of them?

how are right-wing zealots defined

One example may well be your recent tacit support for Ron DeSantis' treatment of those legal asylum seekers [from Venezuela] as subhumans. That's certainly within the realm of "right-wing zealots". It seems to be the kind of right-wing zealotry that completely suffocates any semblance of "Christian values"; that would be the "zealotry" element, possibly - in your mind - sanctified by your insistence that you are "right with Jesus".

@kellyjay said
What names have I called you dive, I've talked about the things you are doing, the
sides you have taken, how they have lined up with the worldviews of Athiest and
Anti-Christs, how you don't acknowledge that the Bible is from God, that you
ignore scripture you don't like, and so on. While you call me names that have to
do with me as a person, how are right-wing zealots d ...[text shortened]... treat many here with that type of
contempt, its a defining trait of yours across many boards here.

I didn’t say “name calling” I said

“I guess in your mind (your low opinion of my Christian perspectives) excuses you of calling me all manner of the nastiest things one Christian can say to another”…

All of which are far worse than me calling you a right wing Christian zealot, which you demonstrably are. You’re right wing politically, and you are indeed a zealot for the right wing American style evangelical Christian attitudes and beliefs you hold. Which by the way you are a very poor defender of.

@divegeester said
I didn’t say “name calling” I said

“I guess in your mind (your low opinion of my Christian perspectives) excuses you of calling me all manner of the nastiest things one Christian can say to another”…

All of which are far worse than me calling you a right wing Christian zealot, which you demonstrably are. You’re right wing politically, and you are indeed a zealot fo ...[text shortened]... ngelical Christian attitudes and beliefs you hold. Which by the way you are a very poor defender of.

By telling you that your views as you profess them here have more in common with
Atheist and Anti-Christs is not calling you names, but you claiming I'm a right-wing
Christian zealot, throwing in I'm an American evangelical Christian, name-calling is!
So you feel justified, well, I'm sure the Atheist and Anti-Christs here are cheering
you on.

I would say this is what you have been reduced to; however, it is your normal
mode of communication, so you've not been reduced to it, it is who you are and
what you do. May I ask if this is how to model what every Christian should be
doing while they share their Christian faith?

Biblically we are called to walk by faith, we are called to love God and each other
and when we align ourselves with those that deny and reject the Lord, do you
think that is what we are doing? We commanded not to add to or take away from
the Word of God, you think you are obeying that by only accepting the bits and
pieces of you like, and disregarding the rest?

Is the Lord in your life, or merely a figment of your imagination as He was in
others' lives here who once claimed He was real and now deny Him? Salvation is
a divine act of God, not a mental exercise, did that happen to you, are you a
Christian in name only? Are you ashamed to answer that question, bottom line it
is the only question that matters!

@kellyjay said
you claiming I'm a right-wingChristian zealot

But anyone who has read your posts, here, and even more especially on the Debates Forum, these last 10 or 15 years can see you not even attempting to disguise the fact you are a right-wing zealot.

@kellyjay said
Biblically we are called to walk by faith

And? Do you?

@kellyjay said
We commanded not to add to or take away from
the Word of God, you think you are obeying that by only accepting the bits and
pieces of you like, and disregarding the rest?

"Commanded" by whom?

@kellyjay said
If good is done blessings follow if evil is done curses follow God doesn’t bless evil.

You have talked repeatedly about how "evil" you are. What "curses" follow the "evil" that you do?

@kellyjay said
By telling you that your views as you profess them here have more in common with
Atheist and Anti-Christs is not calling you names

I know. Did you even read my previous post where I corrected you?

@kellyjay said
By telling you that your views as you profess them here have more in common with
Atheist and Anti-Christs is not calling you names, but you claiming I'm a right-wing
Christian zealot, throwing in I'm an American evangelical Christian, name-calling is!
So you feel justified, well, I'm sure the Atheist and Anti-Christs here are cheering
you on.

I would say this is what ...[text shortened]... me only? Are you ashamed to answer that question, bottom line it
is the only question that matters!

I thought you would have realised by now that I’m not interested in the slightest in your pontifications about how “evil” we all are, how you feel you “walk your faith” or how you feel that you “have Jesus within” you because you think certain things about yourself.

To me you are a typical American fundamentalist right-wing Christian zealot who holds extremist views on the enactment of eternal torture by your version of Jesus upon whoever fails to align with personal opinion about ancient Hebrew texts.

@divegeester said
I know. Did you even read my previous post where I corrected you?

I've been reading your posts, have you had a change of heart? Do you now believe
that the Bible comes from God? Do you now believe Jesus is God, always was, is,
and will be? Do you now accept that being God, everything from Heaven, Earth,
and Hell are in the dominion of God? Are you now more concerned with using the
scripture to order your life to, or are you still changing scripture to suit you? Do you
accept that God calls the world condemned already?

@divegeester said
I thought you would have realised by now that I’m not interested in the slightest in your pontifications about how “evil” we all are, how you feel you “walk your faith” or how you feel that you “have Jesus within” you because you think certain things about yourself.

To me you are a typical American fundamentalist right-wing Christian zealot who holds extremist views on ...[text shortened]... your version of Jesus upon whoever fails to align with personal opinion about ancient Hebrew texts.

As I said, you reject what the Bible says and in its place insert your imagination not
based upon scripture, but your feelings.

@kellyjay said
I've been reading your posts, have you had a change of heart? Do you now believe
that the Bible comes from God? Do you now believe Jesus is God, always was, is,
and will be? Do you now accept that being God, everything from Heaven, Earth,
and Hell are in the dominion of God? Are you now more concerned with using the
scripture to order your life to, or are you still changing scripture to suit you? Do you
accept that God calls the world condemned already?

Since becoming a Christian I’ve always believed the following:

- The bible contains the word of God and is a guide for life.
- I don’t change the bible, it is what is I just disagree with your personal interpretation of some of it.
- Jesus is God in the flesh
- God is sovereign; responsible for and accountable for everything.

I think you just want to believe, need to believe that I’m all the things you wrote about me for the same reason you refuse to accept the FMF used to be a Christian.

@kellyjay said
As I said, you reject what the Bible says and in its place insert your imagination not
based upon scripture, but your feelings.

No kellyjay I don’t.

What I reject is your personal opinion on a certain interpretation of parts of it.

@divegeester said
No kellyjay I don’t.

What I reject is your personal opinion on a certain interpretation of parts of it.

I don't care what you think of my interpretations of any of it, the Word speaks for
itself and you disagree with it.

@divegeester said
Since becoming a Christian I’ve always believed the following:

- The bible contains the word of God and is a guide for life.
- I don’t change the bible, it is what is I just disagree with your personal interpretation of some of it.
- Jesus is God in the flesh
- God is sovereign; responsible for and accountable for everything.

I think you just want to believe, ne ...[text shortened]... e things you wrote about me for the same reason you refuse to accept the FMF used to be a Christian.

The Bible only contains the Word of God, which is quite different than it is the Word
of God. So you pick and choose, which is what I have been telling you! My personal
opinion isn't a priority, what the scriptures clearly say is. So Jesus is God and in
charge of Hell, you admit that?