Originally posted by ZaserGood luck with that.
I am yesterday, today, and tommorrow, and have the power to be born a second time. I am the divine, hidden soul who gives sephucherul meal to the denizens of the deep, the place of the dead. Hail, lord of the shrine that stands in the center of the earth. He is I and I am he.
-Book of the Dead
Originally posted by FreakyKBHuh-huh. I guess it hasn't occured to you that it might be the other way 'round? Especially since it has been demonstrated to my complete satisfaction that no HJC ever existed. You should probably go ahead and Google up the word "Astrotheology".
The Gospel, as seen in the stars, had many imitators from the beginnings of man's history. The Gospel, as seen in the Gospel accounts, brought to flesh the promise from before.
To have a record in the stars prior to formulation of the mythologies of the ancient world, and then see that story played out in real history by virtue of the life, death, resu ...[text shortened]... ion of Jesus Christ, should be overwhelming for anyone objectively viewing the panoramic story.
Originally posted by David CSo, in your opinion, the study of one disillusioned former pastor is enough to convince you that the historical person depicted in the Gospel accounts and the Acts of apostles did not exist?
Historical Jesus Christ...as opposed to, say, MJC. Mythical, in case you might be wondering.
Originally posted by FreakyKBHOne pastor? Hardly. It is...as you say...a panoramic. Our vantage points of the panorama appear to be different.
So, in your opinion, the study of one disillusioned former pastor is enough to convince you that the historical person depicted in the Gospel accounts and the Acts of apostles did not exist?
Originally posted by dagsSuper. You'd be wrong, though. At best, the historical character depicted by Freaky's gospels is a composite of many wandering rabbis called Yeshua in Palestine at the time.
I'm not even a christian and I believe he was a real person, I just don't believe he was the son or whatever of a God.
Originally posted by David CCraig Lyons, the supposed former pastor, supposedly graduating from Southwestern Theological Seminary in 1988, has his own little website:
One pastor? Hardly. It is...as you say...a panoramic. Our vantage points of the panorama appear to be different.
http://jesusastrotheology.netfirms.com/
and, quite frankly, from a scholarship viewpoint--- without even considering the histrocity of his 'studies'--- it's a load of crappoccino.
This was one of the sites I visted at your insistence. Are there any better ones?
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHI'll leave it to you to find them, should you be interested in the idea. I wouldn't want to be accused of any unwarranted insistence.
This was one of the sites I visted at your insistence. Are there any better ones?
How would you care to demonstrate the idea is a load of "crappocino"? Remember, you're the one insisting "the stars reflect human history", whereas this hypothesis is far less spurious: human mythology was derived from the stars.
Of course, you're free to reject the scientific data that demonstrates the stars are almost immeasurably older than modern humans, or that the slow precession of the stars around the ecliptic plane is due to the slight rotational wobble of the Earth on its' axis. You can also deny that ancient cultures placed an inordinate amount of importance on astronomical observation and astrology...but in doing so, you're filling your cup with said "crappocino".
Originally posted by David CWhat say you of one Craig Lyons, then? Do you deny that this pathetic website was one that 'convinced' you of the mythological nature of Jesus Christ?
I'll leave it to you to find them, should you be interested in the idea. I wouldn't want to be accused of any unwarranted insistence.
How would you care to demonstrate the idea is a load of "crappocino"? Remember, you're the one insisting "the stars reflect human history", whereas this hypothesis is far less spurious: human mythology was derived from the ...[text shortened]... ion and astrology...but in doing so, you're filling your cup with said "crappocino".
I would not care to demonstrate that the idea is a load thus described, as the idea carries no merit or weight of scholarship, thus no warrant for response.
That the human history reflects the stars is self-evident.
With respect to the dating of the stars, as it has no bearing on the subject, I will avoid that argument, as well.
