@fmf saidWhen did I say mine pointed me there, and yours didn't?
You can imply that your conscience points to your subjective notion of "north" and that mine does not until you go blue in the face, KellyJay.
I believe scripture when it says,
Jeremiah 17:9
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and incurable; who can know it?"
If everyone's moral compass are all pointing in different directions, wouldn't mine
be also?
@kellyjay saidWell, I believe your moral compass is unique and that mine is unique and that they are therefore different, and everyone's is unique and different, so why are you asking me this question? It's as if you are pretending not to understand anything I have said.
If everyone's moral compass are all pointing in different directions, wouldn't mine
be also?
@fmf saidBUMP for KellyJay
I have now corrected this numb riff of yours for the umpteenth time and answered a whole slew of other questions head-on. So how about you answer my question? Do any ideas expressed in the course of debates and discussions on this forum qualify as "evil" according to your own definition?
@fmf saidYou still don't get it, seriously, if all of our notions of north are not fixed, then north
If you think that your moral compass does NOT point to your own notion of "north" and you DON'T think that that "north" should be where mine points to, then just say so.
can be anything we want it to be there wouldn't be a 'right' north and the same
thing would be true of good and evil. There could be no evil if our notions of good
and evil are only found in us as we desire them to be. This is why people can live
their lives doing things that others around them think are abhorrent, and think
nothing of it.
@kellyjay saidThere is no "north" that applies to everybody. It is you who "seriously doesn’t get" what my stance is.
You still don't get it, seriously, if all of our notions of north are not fixed, then north
can be anything we want it to be there wouldn't be a 'right' north and the same
thing would be true of good and evil.
If you don't have any notion of what your own "right north" is, then so be it. It's a matter for you.
If your moral compass makes you believe calling someone a fool is "evil" when mine doesn't then ok, obviously we disagree about the definition of "evil".
What is the real world upshot of this?
@kellyjay said"There can be no evil" if you and I don't happen to agree? What on Earth are you on about? I have given you my definition of "evil". So your own moral compass makes you disagree with it?
There could be no evil if our notions of good
and evil are only found in us as we desire them to be.
@kellyjay saidWell, there are bad people in this world, KellyJay. We can agree on that. You have suggested that "calling someone a fool" is "evil" and deserves eternal torture in burning flames. Does this mean you believe that "calling someone a fool" is "abhorrent" and makes someone "abhorrent"?
This is why people can live
their lives doing things that others around them think are abhorrent, and think
nothing of it.