Originally posted by DoctorScribblesWhen I was a young boy and given to sincerely believing such nonsense, I would sometimes think of my relatives' state in hell. I have always found it quite difficult to comprehend eternity, but, as I really thought of what it would be like for them at that very moment, knowing that you will suffer continually, without hope or peace, some horrible awareness of suffering endlessly would come to me in fleeting moments of cognition. Tremendous waves of empathy would wash over me, and I would weep.
Many evangelists here say that you must do this and you must do that, such as saying the Sinners Prayer or having a personal relationship with Jesus, in order to avoid hell.
My question to them is, Have all of your relatives done those things, or do you have relatives who are burning in eternal torment?
In my estimation, that certain xians here can so casually dismiss your question as trivial betrays a kernel of disbelief in their minds. The only other explaination for their attitude that I can think of is far too cruel for even the most spiteful human being.
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesFrom dictionary.com
I hope you don't mind if I ask you a personal question.
Are you dense?
dense:
adj. dens·er, dens·est
Having relatively high density.
Crowded closely together; compact: a dense population.
Hard to penetrate; thick: a dense jungle.
Permitting little light to pass through, because of compactness of matter: dense glass; a dense fog.
Opaque, with good contrast between light and dark areas. Used of a photographic negative.
Difficult to understand because of complexity or obscurity: a dense novel.
Slow to apprehend; thickheaded.
I assume it is this last definition that you are referring to. Correct?
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesOkay then I guess I won't offer specifics because I don't really believe in Hell or Heaven. I guess I was offering specifics because I believe this person was a textbook Hell dweller....good thread
Not if you believe they are in hell only by the given definition, unless you hold that definition to be correct.
Originally posted by lioyankYes I believe you are right but I question if the close relative was truly insane or just selfish or just both?
I'm not positive on this one, but I believe that there are specific rules for these type of people. I think that there are certain special circumstances where people can be given an "exemption" from hell. I think Ivanhoe would know more about this.
Originally posted by lioyankThat's what I thought. When you get some time to work your way through telerion's post, I'd like to see you address the dichotomy that he presents.
Well, I guess so. I mean, if I had to check to make sure that I had the right definition of that word, just to understand what your question was... 😉
Originally posted by DoctorScribblesI wish I could. However, being the dense person that I am, I don't understand this "xtians" word. I looked it up, but there were no entries for it. Would you mind telling me what it means?
That's what I thought. When you get some time to work your way through telerion's post, I'd like to see you address the dichotomy that he presents.