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    Just a general question for the religious folks..... Anything you disagree with or think is wrong in the Bible?
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    04 May '13 02:59
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Just a general question for the religious folks..... Anything you disagree with or think is wrong in the Bible?
    Some of the translations.
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    04 May '13 05:301 edit
    Yes my beliefs do agree with the scriptures no doubt. (Bible) I also do have issues with some translations but overall I think the bible and the truths in it are intact and very close to the original manuscripts. I think doctrinally sound and a lot of apparent contradictions can be explained. I believe in the inerrantcy of the message not necessarily the text itself but God used men to write it out over 1500 years and the bible is actually internally consistent though many try to argue that the old testament God and the new testament God are two different Gods.

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    J.K. Rowling has redefined the bible in modern literacy terms. Harry Potter is a much a similar living son of a God as much as Jesus was.

    -m. 😉
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    It can be an analogy for the real...As Harry Potter is a kinda of savior for others even at the cost of himself. Metaphor for Good vs Evil and how love wins out in the end.


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    04 May '13 20:52
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Some of the translations.
    How do you decide which translations are valid?
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    04 May '13 22:081 edit
    Is this an extension of "Evangelicals hate Jesus"?
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    04 May '13 22:17
    The bible? Generally no

    Jesus? Mostly yes
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    In vain do they worship me...

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    05 May '13 02:47
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Is this an extension of "Evangelicals hate Jesus"?
    Oh no. Just curious to see what some say.
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    05 May '13 02:54
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Just a general question for the religious folks..... Anything you disagree with or think is wrong in the Bible?
    If you take the Bible as literal truth, then here are a few quotes that might give you pause. For the record, I am an agnostic and a Humanist.

    Leviticus 20:9
    If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
    20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
    20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death.
    Deuteronomy 22:20-1 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.
    Exodus 35:2
    For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.
    On Destroying Other People

    Deuteronomy 7:1-2 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
    20:10-17 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
    However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
    On the Evil of Biblical Law

    Ezekiel 20:25-26 I also gave them over to statutes that were not good and laws they could not live by; I let them become defiled through their gifts—the sacrifice of every firstborn—that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.
    On Slavery & Subjugation of Women

    Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
    Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
    1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.
    2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
    Leviticus 25:44-45
    Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
    Jesus, on His Second Coming

    Matthew 24:29-34
    [T]he sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. . . . They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. . . . I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. [Emphasis added.]
    16:27-28
    For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
    Scientific Errors

    (1) Rabbits don’t chew cud.
    Deuteronomy 14:6-7
    You may eat any animal that has a split hoof divided in two and that chews the cud. However, of those that chew the cud or that have a split hoof completely divided you may not eat the camel, the rabbit, or the coney.
    (2) No insects (including grasshoppers) are 4-legged.
    Leviticus 11:20-22
    All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper.
    (3) This is only possible on a flat earth.
    Matthew 4:8
    Again the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
    (4) pi does not = 3.
    1 Kings 7:23
    He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim . . . It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.
    (5) The earth moves. It does not have a foundation.
    Psalms 104:5
    He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
    Selected Contradictions

    (1)
    2 Kings 2:11 As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
    John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
    (2)
    Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
    Exodus 32:14 Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.
    (3)
    Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith . . . not by works.
    James 2:14-17 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? . . . Faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
    Revelation 22:12 Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
    (4) (Jesus speaking)
    Matthew 5:16 Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven.
    Matthew 6:1 Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them.
    (5) (Jesus speaking)
    John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.
    Matthew 10:34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
    (6)
    Genesis 32:30 So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and my life was preserved.”
    Exodus 33:11 The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks with his friend.
    John 1:18 No one has ever seen God.
    (7) (Jesus speaking)
    John 5:31 If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.
    John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.
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    05 May '13 03:12
    Originally posted by Phranny
    If you take the Bible as literal truth, then here are a few quotes that might give you pause. For the record, I am an agnostic and a Humanist.

    Leviticus 20:9
    If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
    20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must ...[text shortened]... y testimony is not valid.
    John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.
    If we take the Bible as literal truth as believers, why would you think any of this might give us pause?
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    05 May '13 04:271 edit
    Originally posted by Phranny
    If you take the Bible as literal truth, then here are a few quotes that might give you pause. For the record, I am an agnostic and a Humanist.

    Leviticus 20:9
    If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
    20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must ...[text shortened]... y testimony is not valid.
    John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.
    So...what is your point?
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    Originally posted by Phranny
    If you take the Bible as literal truth, then here are a few quotes that might give you pause. For the record, I am an agnostic and a Humanist.

    Leviticus 20:9
    If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
    20:10 If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must ...[text shortened]... y testimony is not valid.
    John 8:14 Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.
    Context as well as history...............



    Manny
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    08 May '13 11:36
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Just a general question for the religious folks..... Anything you disagree with or think is wrong in the Bible?
    Anything you disagree with or think is wrong in the Bible?
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