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    15 Apr '05 19:21
    Does the concept of Hell seem a little bit too strong of a punishment for the average Joe that just did not see the need in getting Saved ? Maybe the average Joe was a Jew. Maybe a Buddist. Maybe a Hindhu. Maybe a Muslem. It's amazing how the Christian idea of Hell has not been put into the trash can of time a long time ago. What a screwball concept it is. What an evil concept it is. It has nothing to do with a all "Good God". It reminds me of something from the other side of the fense. Something that the Devil might come up with. By the way the idea of a Devil also seems wacked out. Christianity needs to wake up to rational thought.
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    15 Apr '05 19:22
    Originally posted by buckky
    Does the concept of Hell seem a little bit too strong of a punishment for the average Joe that just did not see the need in getting Saved ? Maybe the average Joe was a Jew. Maybe a Buddist. Maybe a Hindhu. Maybe a Muslem. It's amazing how the Christian idea of Hell has not been put into the trash can of time a long time ago. What a screwball concept it is. W ...[text shortened]... ay the idea of a Devil also seems wacked out. Christianity needs to wake up to rational thought.
    Yes, the concept of Hell seems obviously man-made.
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    15 Apr '05 19:29
    Originally posted by telerion
    Yes, the concept of Hell seems obviously man-made.
    The three major Religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam talk about Heaven and Hell. If you believe that these three were written by mankind, then fair enough.

    Personally, I believe that this life is just a Test;
    Pass the test = heaven
    Fail the test = hell
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    15 Apr '05 19:38
    Originally posted by Peachy
    The three major Religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam talk about Heaven and Hell. If you believe that these three were written by mankind, then fair enough.

    Personally, I believe that this life is just a Test;
    Pass the test = heaven
    Fail the test = hell
    Test of what? If it's a test, we all fail.

    Hell does seem over the top. But you can not logically infer anything by how it seems to you.
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    15 Apr '05 19:44
    Originally posted by Coletti
    Test of what? If it's a test, we all fail.

    Hell does seem over the top. But you can not logically infer anything by how it seems to you.
    Test.. do good in your life, always have the right intentions, and you'll pass. Its not a secret.. there is no formula. Just common sense.
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    15 Apr '05 19:47
    Originally posted by Peachy
    Test.. do good in your life, always have the right intentions, and you'll pass. Its not a secret.. there is no formula. Just common sense.
    Common sense - works every time.
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    15 Apr '05 19:47
    Originally posted by Coletti
    Common sense - works every time.
    it should.. as long as you the right intentions.
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    15 Apr '05 19:51
    Originally posted by Peachy
    it should.. as long as you the right intentions.
    Good intentions will get you where? ...
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    15 Apr '05 19:52
    Originally posted by Coletti
    Good intentions will get you where? ...
    will get you in God's good books
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    15 Apr '05 19:54
    Originally posted by Peachy
    will get you in God's good books
    The names were there in advance.
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    15 Apr '05 19:58
    Originally posted by Coletti
    The names were there in advance.
    there is fate and there is free will.

    example:
    if you were to gain $10 today, you will have it now matter what = fate
    however you will be accounted on HOW you earn it. You can steal it, you can find it, you can work for it, someone can give it to you, you can kill for it.. etc etc..

    your actions and intentions what counts.
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    15 Apr '05 20:01
    Originally posted by Peachy
    there is fate and there is free will.

    example:
    if you were to gain $10 today, you will have it now matter what = fate
    however you will be accounted on HOW you earn it. You can steal it, you can find it, you can work for it, someone can give it to you, you can kill for it.. etc etc..

    your actions and intentions what counts.
    Free will is an illusion. When have you ever done what you haven't done.
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    15 Apr '05 20:04
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    Sasquatch waits, arms and legs akimbo, with coffee cup and doughnut, for the arrival of Darfius, Lord Most High And Holy Protector of The Earth, so Darfius will cyber-flame the heathens that have propagated their filth in this thread...
    excuse me?
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    15 Apr '05 20:14
    Originally posted by Peachy
    excuse me?
    Oh just wait Peachy. Like Christ, who is said to have resided in the belly of the earth for three days, so to will Darfius return from a period of silence with great majesty and terrible wrath.
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    15 Apr '05 20:18
    Originally posted by telerion
    Oh just wait Peachy. Like Christ, who is said to have resided in the belly of the earth for three days, so to will Darfius return from a period of silence with great majesty and terrible wrath.
    ahhh!! you should have said so!! 🙂
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