Does one need to believe in Jesus for salvation.

@suzianne said
@KingDavid403

Matthew 7:20-23 KJV - "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many ...[text shortened]... ork iniquity."

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. By their fruits, not by their talk.

I know this scripture well.; and, thank you Suzianne. However, I do not understand what message you're attempting to convey to me. Unless it is about my somewhat snide remark in my previous post about talking. Could you explain further please? Thanks. 🙂

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You claimed there are NO scriptures in the bible claiming that belief in Jesus is necessary for salvation; you are demonstrably incorrect as I’ve given you one.
I said in my last post to you that you were correct in that scripture and that I was wrong.
However, we must always study further to find the context of the scriptures and what was going on for Jesus and others to say the things that they said at that time. I did that for you and gave you my opinion of the context; just my opinion. I feel those circumstances are much different than what I'm trying to say here. These Jews that Jesus was talking too knew Jesus well; and, Jesus had been attempting to bring them to Him for over three years now. A much different case than those that don't know Jesus, or have never been introduced to Him. If these are diligently seeking our God even if the name Jesus is unknown to them, I feel (know in my heart) the Lord has saved them from this point on.
Also, "I’m not really interested in your convoluted and contradictory interpretation of salvation,' Which seems to be a tightrope walking contest 20 stories up. Which would have killed me many times over by this time. 🙂

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You know exactly what about. I'm not playing you liars game boy. If not, go back and read; and, it's plain as day for ya. Again, if you copy and paste parts of my posts to make them into lies; Our conversations will end. If you can't debate with truth and honesty with me, then don't debate at all. I can handle all you other childish antics.

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However, it is similar in the sense that Rajk999 believes that non-Christians can be saved if they do good works.

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Unfortunately, he seems to be in the habit of making "absolute" claims - another example is when he told me that there were "NO copying errors" in the Bible - and then being shocked that people took his words literally.

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No.
The scriptures speak for themselves; if studied.
I've clearly stated my question and position of the certain people I am talking about. I know I am right in my position about those people. The Lord is Extremely merciful beyond our comprehension, etc.

@bigdoggproblem said
Unfortunately, he seems to be in the habit of making "absolute" claims - another example is when he told me that there were "NO copying errors" in the Bible - and then being shocked that people took his words literally.

You're correct. I do need to learn and grow in this area. Thank you.

@bigdoggproblem said
However, it is similar in the sense that Rajk999 believes that non-Christians can be saved if they do good works.

However, if you are saved you will have good works. Faith and works cannot be separated. One goes with the other.

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lol... you got a mirror around? Look into it when you have time...