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    04 Apr '07 02:11
    Originally posted by whodey
    How do you know this?
    if i was dead, the world would continue to function without me. it does not need me. same with you
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    04 Apr '07 02:14
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    if i was dead, the world would continue to function without me. it does not need me. same with you
    But how do you know this for sure?
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    04 Apr '07 02:17
    Originally posted by whodey
    But how do you know this for sure?
    people die all the time and the world keeps spinning.
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    04 Apr '07 02:29
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    people die all the time and the world keeps spinning.
    But other people are not you. What about when you die?
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    04 Apr '07 02:30
    Originally posted by whodey
    But other people are not you. What about when you die?
    when i die, maybe family and friends will cry but the rest of the world will not
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    04 Apr '07 02:39
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    when i die, maybe family and friends will cry but the rest of the world will not
    Does this crying bring your life value or is your value intrinsic with or without them crying for you?
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    04 Apr '07 02:46
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does this crying bring your life value or is your value intrinsic with or without them crying for you?
    crying means that they care, if nobody cares then your life has no value
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    04 Apr '07 02:49
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    crying means that they care, if nobody cares then your life has no value
    That is correct, unless their is a higher power who values you.....and there is. 😀
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    04 Apr '07 03:05
    Originally posted by whodey
    That is correct, unless their is a higher power who values you.....and there is. 😀
    true. so if you die and not many people care, then you might find out that God cares. so that is good to know, but if you cease to exist then you know there is no God but you dont exist so you dont realize it, so either way death is not so bad
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    04 Apr '07 03:091 edit
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    true. so if you die and not many people care, then you might find out that God cares. so that is good to know, but if you cease to exist then you know there is no God but you dont exist so you dont realize it, so either way death is not so bad
    Unless of coarse you are seperated from him when you die. If this happens this is known as the second death. Christ said that your spirit must be "born" upon conversion in order to live spiritually when your body fails. God loves us and does not wish us to perish eternally for our sins. That is why Christ died for us.
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    04 Apr '07 03:26
    Originally posted by whodey
    Unless of coarse you are seperated from him when you die. If this happens this is known as the second death. Christ said that your spirit must be "born" upon conversion in order to live spiritually when your body fails. God loves us and does not wish us to perish eternally for our sins. That is why Christ died for us.
    so then believe
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    04 Apr '07 03:31
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    so then believe
    Ask and you shall recieve.
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    04 Apr '07 04:012 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    Unless of coarse you are seperated from him when you die. If this happens this is known as the second death. Christ said that your spirit must be "born" upon conversion in order to live spiritually when your body fails. God loves us and does not wish us to perish eternally for our sins. That is why Christ died for us.
    Death cult fairy tale.

    Why, oh why, does a 3 O entity more superior to us than we are to an amoeba, "love us"? Why would he care if we "perish eternally" (how do you do that BTW?) or not? And why would he bother to "die" for us when he could wave his magic pinky and POOF! - we wouldn't "perish eternally"?
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    04 Apr '07 04:43
    If you are a manifestion of the BTV, you have meaning as would all its manifestions. If your best case scenario is to be condemned to grovel for all eternity before a being more superior to you than you are to an amoeba, then your existence is meaningless and demeaning.
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    04 Apr '07 04:541 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    Ask and you shall recieve.
    Why don't you just cut to the chase, whoday? Just go head and say what you really want to say, which is unless we accept Jesus in our heart, our life is meaningless.

    I am not trying to be rude, but you seem to be having trouble getting to your point.
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