03 Apr 07
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyYour life is what you make it...it can have meaning or it doesnt...you decide....free will
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyThe meaning is based upon what I and others perceive it to be but I would hardly call that merely an illusion. Meaning is relative, there is nothing you can do about that. Theists often claim that a meaning based on God is somehow more substantive or meaningful or real but that is the real illusion.
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by Jay JoosBut if the meaning for your existence is ONLY what you make it, it has no inherent value, rather, such meaning could then be deemed illusionary. Once you perish and thsoe who care about you perish the meaning for your life also perishes. It begs the question if such meaning actually existed in the first place. If so, where did it go?
Your life is what you make it...it can have meaning or it doesnt...you decide....free will
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by twhiteheadCan you prove that is an illusion?
The meaning is based upon what I and others perceive it to be but I would hardly call that merely an illusion. Meaning is relative, there is nothing you can do about that. Theists often claim that a meaning based on God is somehow more substantive or meaningful or real but that is the real illusion.
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03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyI try not to think about it. 🙁
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyYou make a good point...i will ponder on it !!!
But if the meaning for your existence is ONLY what you make it, it has no inherent value, rather, such meaning could then be deemed illusionary. Once you perish and thsoe who care about you perish the meaning for your life also perishes. It begs the question if such meaning actually existed in the first place. If so, where did it go?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyI dont think you truly perish(such a harsh word) our bloodlines run on and on... my kids,their kids,and theirs etc,etc...
But if the meaning for your existence is ONLY what you make it, it has no inherent value, rather, such meaning could then be deemed illusionary. Once you perish and thsoe who care about you perish the meaning for your life also perishes. It begs the question if such meaning actually existed in the first place. If so, where did it go?
We are all descendants from Adam...that was a long time ago... LOL 🙂
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodeyCan you explain how you are using the word “meaning”? What does the word meaning mean to you?
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by Jay JoosIf meaning is used synonymously with understanding (e.g., this is how I understand the nature of my existence), then yes. But if he intends “purpose” or “value”—or something else—they are not necessarily the same thing.
The answer is in the question...🙂
What is the “meaning” of a symphony?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by StarrmanI tend, among other things, to Camusian absurdism—
There's no such thing as meaning, merely subjective, relative opinion. Does this matter? No, not really, just get on with it, SRO can be just as enjoyable.
Vistesd, have you read much on Camus' absurdity? I feel I may have a great deal of time for him.
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=64959
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by whodey"Ultimately nothing has any meaning."
Just a question for everyone else out there. Does your life have meaning? Well of coarse it does, you say. You have loved ones you care about, you have a career that is going some place etc. However, does this meaning extend beyond yourself? In other words, does your life really have meaning in and of itself or is this meaning merely an illusion based upon what you or others only percieve it to be?
What does "ultimately" mean here, except judged from a particular perspective (and one of little or no practical value)?
What makes sub specie aeternitatis the most appropriate viewpoint to judge meaning and value?
03 Apr 07
Originally posted by vistesdThe thought of us haveing "meaning" is purely subjective in nature. For example, what "meaning" does a rock have? It has no intrinsic value other than simply existing. However, relative to myself, that rock may have a great deal of value depending on what that rock may mean to me. For example, it could be made of a precious metal such as gold or silver.
Can you explain how you are using the word “meaning”? What does the word meaning mean to you?
Here is a question for you. What differentiates you from that rock other than you placing value on your life and those that care about you placing value on your life? Perhaps we could even find a rock that contains the same number of atoms that make you up? What gives vistesd greater "meaning" than that dumb rock?