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Originally posted by twhitehead
I don't understand how that is possible. I am clearly missing something. Surely to be able to talk to Muhammad required him to be personal?
Who claims to be able to talk to Mohammed? I never heard of such a thing

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Einstein never believed in God?, just shows what a dumb ass he was. Religon is based on faith, imagine for one moment you could prove the existance of God, what would that achieve?. You either believe or don't simple choice.

I once heard someone say that they believed, if, when they died they were wrong then they would never find out if they were right or wrong. If they didn't believe and were wrong they sure would find out.

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Originally posted by gearies
You either believe or don't simple choice.
I'm here to call your bluff, gearies.

Please describe your assumed model of belief -- you know, the one you think shows that beliefs are the product of "simple choice".

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Originally posted by gearies
Einstein never believed in God?, just shows what a dumb ass he was. Religon is based on faith, imagine for one moment you could prove the existance of God, what would that achieve?. You either believe or don't simple choice.

I once heard someone say that they believed, if, when they died they were wrong then they would never find out if they were right or wrong. If they didn't believe and were wrong they sure would find out.
I believe you are simple minded, although I didn't simply choose so.

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Originally posted by gearies
Einstein never believed in God?, just shows what a dumb ass he was.
You think you could even understand Relativity, let alone come up with it?

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Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
I believe you are simple minded, although I didn't simply choose so.
You obviously didn't comprehend the irony behind my comment, serious limitations there on your part!

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Originally posted by LemonJello
I'm here to call your bluff, gearies.

Please describe your assumed model of belief -- you know, the one you think shows that beliefs are the product of "simple choice".
Nah, not interested in the conversion/explanation of faith route, I answer a question with a question, why if as I presume you don't believe are you interested in the views of those who do?.

My neighbour goes fishing each weekend, I know about it but are not interested enough to find out more, is that not a reasonable position for non believers to take?

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PHd in physics says I could!

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Originally posted by gearies
My neighbour goes fishing each weekend, I know about it but are not interested enough to find out more, is that not a reasonable position for non believers to take?
Not if his fishing interferes with your life. eg
1. He gets up at 3 in the morning and makes lots of noise about it.
2. He is fishing in your pond.
3. He wants fishing taught at your childs school instead of science.
4. He wants to implement laws in the government based on fishing.
5. You believe fishing to be unreasonable cruelty to animals.
6. Most of your town goes fishing and they discriminate against anyone who doesn't.
7. He his not living the best life he could because of his addiction to fishing.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Not if his fishing interferes with your life. eg
1. He gets up at 3 in the morning and makes lots of noise about it.
2. He is fishing in your pond.
3. He wants fishing taught at your childs school instead of science.
4. He wants to implement laws in the government based on fishing.
5. You believe fishing to be unreasonable cruelty to animals.
6. Mos ...[text shortened]... who doesn't.
7. He his not living the best life he could because of his addiction to fishing.
So which of the 10 commandments do you find difficult or unsuitable for the human race. Are you saying that if everyone followed the 10 commandments the world woud still be the cesspit it is now.


Re your comments about teaching of religion in schools, parents have the right to opt their children out. Of course most don't because they don't find the teaching of religion objectionable.

You seem to find the teaching of science and religion at variance with one another, there are plenty of scientists who are committed christians, how do you explain that?.

Are they "bad scientists/doctors/chemists because of their personal faith? Would you check the religious persuassion of your GP before seeing him or her?.

I come back to a point you made regarding living the best life because of his addiction to Religion. I have to say that is a mighty pompous statement to make. Are you saying Bonhoffer, Mother Teresa, nuns working with Aids victims are not making the best of their life??.

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Originally posted by gearies
Nah, not interested in the conversion/explanation of faith route, I answer a question with a question, why if as I presume you don't believe are you interested in the views of those who do?.

My neighbour goes fishing each weekend, I know about it but are not interested enough to find out more, is that not a reasonable position for non believers to take?
Oh, so you're not interested in explaining it to me. Move along then. And consider your bluff called.

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Originally posted by gearies
PHd in physics says I could!
It's PhD, not PHd. (And I should know, as I have one in plant science)

Doctor of Philosophy, not doctor of PHilosophy.

When you can actually get the acronym right (and make a coherent argument) I might actually believe you.

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First of: I thought he was talking about another Garbiel not the Angel, Me sorry me gaga.
I do have masters in phisics. Yes I know I write in sutch way you dont seem to understand so I will try to dumb it down alitle so you people understand what I acctully are trying to say.
Let’s start with what we know about the guy.
He was born : 1879 march 14:th. In Ulm near Baden-Württemberg, And later came to USA where he lived and died and both mainly in Prinston. He was not a nice man always but in he later years he became more spirituel. All this is fact you can se for you self in wikipedia.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Doctor of Philosophy, not doctor of PHilosophy.
Actually its Philosophiæ Doctor

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Actually its Philosophiæ Doctor
Indeed.