End Times

Has any one read the Left Behind series by Jerry B Jenkins and Tim LaHaye? I now understand more about the end times, and have read the series twice.

I would say that all of the things mentioned in the series are true, except from where the anti-christ will come from. I dont think anyone will know exactly. He could be a pope, minister, president, he actually could be anything.

Everything Regicidal has said is true (from my point of view and believes). It is pretty hard to understand exactly what will happen after the rapture of Jesus's children. It really seems impossible to believe that millions of people will disappear and that all of these tribulation stuff is gonna happen. But I believe it will happen. If you really do believe in Jesus, then you'll believe the Bible and everything it says that happened, and what will happen.

The way I look at this is, everything in life has something bigger than itself up until the point where you get to God. Everything is regulated. If you brake the law, you will be punished by the police and court. If you jump of a 10 story building, the changes of your survival I guess is 1%. If you refuse to except that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, there are Consequences, and it is - you will go to hell. Everybody knows the law, and everybody knows what will happen once you brake the law.

I would guess that we have already entered the end times, end pretty soon the rapture will take place.

Some will agree and some wont. Lets hear your story?

Originally posted by Regicidal
He's supposedly an agent of satan who deceives the world into making him it's leader and who ushers in 3 1/2 years of peace through a united world government (sort of an evil mimicking of christ's millenial rule). The catch is that the populace must receive the mark of "the beast" in order to be able to transact commerce. The "beast" is something that dese ...[text shortened]... rist then rules over the physical earth as the rightful king of kings for 1000 years.

Is it going to be a film?

Originally posted by sugiezd
Is it going to be a film?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_The_Movie

Originally posted by Nicksten
It really seems impossible to believe that millions of people will disappear and that all of these tribulation stuff is gonna happen. But I believe it will happen.

The majority of the worlds population believes in the supernatural so why should something like the rapture seem especially impossible?

If you really do believe in Jesus, then you'll believe the Bible and everything it says that happened, and what will happen.
I would guess that the majority of Christians do not agree with you on that one, it is certainly not a logical conclusion but you own personal opinion.

If you refuse to except that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, there are Consequences, and it is - you will go to hell. Everybody knows the law, and everybody knows what will happen once you brake the law.
Actually an atheist like myself definitely does not 'know' that refusal to accept that Jesus Christ is the Son of God has any consequences (except for the way we get treated by Christians).

I would guess that we have already entered the end times, end pretty soon the rapture will take place.
Is that just a hopeful Guess? Based on what? From what I know of revelations there the signs are that the end times are far from close.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_The_Movie

Oh bugger - it's a Christian film !

How about something from the other side?

Originally posted by sugiezd
Oh bugger - it's a Christian film !

How about something from the other side?

Unfortunately Terry Gilliam hasn't filmed "Good Omens" yet, if he ever will ( http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/gofact.htm ). Otherwise I suppose there is Ingmar Bergman's "Seventh Seal". Not quite what you're after, I suppose. "Constantine"?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Unfortunately Terry Gilliam hasn't filmed "Good Omens" yet, if he ever will ( http://www.smart.co.uk/dreams/gofact.htm ). Otherwise I suppose there is Ingmar Bergman's "Seventh Seal". Not quite what you're after, I suppose. "Constantine"?

Constantine was OKish.

It's the 4 horesmen I want to see - ah, well just have to wait for the real thing.

Originally posted by sonhouse
Then what? The cycle starts all over again?

Incidentally, Christianity isn't the only belief system to conceptualise a notion of "The End Times".

December 21 - The Long Count calendar used by the Maya civilization of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BCE August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283). The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is only a single known but incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Stela 6) which records this date. However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next. The December solstice for 2012 also occurs on this day. Wikipedia: "2012"

...no wonder the Christians eliminated the South Americans--they weren't afraid of the Apocalypse.

Also, does it not strike anyone but myself as ironic that the Antichrist also happens to be the catalyst for which world peace may occur (coincidentally coinciding with the instant disappearance of every true Christian on Earth)?

Run away! It's world peace!

Originally posted by twhitehead
I cant believe nobody has mentioned Bush yet! I'm sure some people think he's the anti-Christ!

Bush can't be antichrist for he is hated by just about everybody in the world. A more popular candidate would be secretary general of the UN, lol.

Originally posted by twhitehead
The majority of the worlds population believes in the supernatural so why should something like the rapture seem especially impossible?

[b]If you really do believe in Jesus, then you'll believe the Bible and everything it says that happened, and what will happen.
I would guess that the majority of Christians do not agree with you on that one, it i ...[text shortened]... t? From what I know of revelations there the signs are that the end times are far from close.[/b]

any Christian who mistreats a non-believer is not a good Christian to me. there are some on television who will say harsh things like "you are going to hell" etc. and that just causes an atheist to rebel, i think. why should they tell you you're going to hell? they aren't God.

The few importants things to know about the coming Antichrist.


1.) He will be like something everyone always wanted to be.

Muscular and stout appearance, extremely intelligent, an imposing appearance - kind of like Arnold Swartzeneggar many times over and mentally brilliant too.

2.) For the first part of his reign he will probably be a very good person with very good solutions to problems.

3.) But this is the first part of his reign. In the second part of his reign he will be exceedingly evil beyond what the world has ever seen.

In these two personalities he will manifest the extremes of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. First he will be surpassingly good. He will be assinated. He will come back to life not very good but very evil.

The last Antichrist (there were many) will culminate the two extremes of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. First good and then evil.

4.) Along with his pseudo resurrection there will be the deceiving miracles which he performs by Satanic power.

5.) He will PHYSICALLY oppose God in the end as God comes in Jesus Christ to defeat him. It is important to know that the enemies of God will finally not only spiritually fight against Christ but physically fight against Him as well.

6.) He will put down all religions and claim that he is god to be worshipped.

7.) Someone said that he would be Chinese. I doubt this. Without going into the verses that speak of his origin right now, I believe that it is more likely that he will arise from Greece.

8.) His career has two parts. One before he is assasinated and one after. After he is assinated and revived (to imitate the resurrection of Jesus) he will be a person with the body of one man and the soul and spirit of another man.

Ceasar Nero's spirit will enter into the body of the slain and ressusitated Antichrist. So in the beginning of his appearance he is a normal man. After his assination and revival to life by Satanic miracles he will be the body of one man and the immaterial being of the ancient Ceasar Nero.

9.) He will be the first person with his false prophet to be cast alive into the eternal fire by Jesus Christ.


10.) Unless God has great mercy on you, if you are here you will find it very hard to resist such a figure. You should consider his temptation like the irresistable pull of the Niagra Falls after one passes a certain point before the falls. The pull and the attraction will be so powerful as to deceive practically the whole world.

11.) The more you get to know Christ now the less chance to be deceived by the Antichrist at any time in the future.


12.) It will probably be impossible to be neutral about the Antichrist. You will be forced to decide one way or another concerning his claims and his leadership. I don't think there will be any neutrality left on the earth at that time.

Jesus is Lord. That is the most important fact.

Do not expect that the coming Antichrst would be Catholic or Communist.

The buying and selling which he permits only for those who bear his ownership speaks much more of a market economy than a Socialistic system.

Secondly, Antichrist will put down all religions and claim that he is to be worshipped as god. This will make him a mortal enemy of the Roman Catholic Church.

You should expect rather that he will rob and burn Roman Catholicsim. Perhaps the confiscation of the great financial wealth of the Roman Catholic Church will be top most on his agenda. The world as a whole will be relieved at this.

Expect the Antichrist to destroy Roman Catholicism and Protestantism down to the ground.

I am not sure where he will stand with other great world religions. I am pretty certain that because he will proclaim that he alone is to be worshipped as god that he will also destroy Islam.

Of course the destruction of religion does not mean the destruction of the experience of God. Since God is not the God of religion but the God of reality, it makes no difference for institutional religion to be destroyed by Antichrist. This will drive people into desperation to really experience God.

My opinion is the the coming Antichrist will have a sphere of influence that is not necessarily over the entire globe. But I think the center of world power will be where he is.

The outside world will be a impotent place to receive refugees fleeing from his government. This will mainly take place in Europe and round the countries around the Mediterranean Sea.

Probably the US will be an impotent place by then where refugees will flee trying to escape the government of the Antichrist.

That could be the same of other continents as well. I am not sure that much is clear to us from the Bible. It does speak about Jews and CHristians fleeing to "the wilderness." I think that it should be interpreted as what was "wilderness" to that part of the world at that time. Certainly the new world would have been considered by the Roman world as a distant wilderness.

Originally posted by jaywill
Do not expect that the coming Antichrst would be Catholic or Communist.

The buying and selling which he permits only for those who bear his ownership speaks much more of a market economy than a Socialistic system.

Secondly, Antichrist will put down all religions and claim that he is to be worshipped as god. This will make him a mortal enemy of the R ...[text shortened]... rtainly the new world would have been considered by the Roman world as a distant wilderness.

Wait, so you actually believe all this? Yikes!

Originally posted by bbarr
Wait, so you actually believe all this? Yikes!

It is alive.

Originally posted by FreakyKBH
It is alive.

I like the reincarnation part the best. Nero lives!