Originally posted by @thinkofoneNo, I haven't. I am sure someone will be along to engage you on your 'point'.
And you've missed the point again.
Originally posted by @thinkofoneAs a matter of interest, do you believe that people who actually become righteous are rewarded with eternal life?
According to the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry, eternal life is about actually becoming righteous. Not merely "trying" to be righteous.
Originally posted by @fmflol. Man, you can be dense.
No, I haven't. I am sure someone will be along to engage you on your 'point'.
Originally posted by @chaney3What's interesting is the number of Christians who don't believe Jesus there and in any number of other places. Yet they delude themselves into believing that "eternal life" / "the kingdom" are theirs because of their "belief in Jesus".
Jesus had instructed a woman to go and "sin no more".
I don't think that's possible, but ThinkOfOne thinks it is possible.
Originally posted by @fmfJesus was crystal clear. If you want eternal life then keep the comcommandments. Jesus said absolutely nothing about believing in His death or any similar nonsense. Evil people will gravitate to whatever doctrine they think gets them off the hook and relieves them of the requirement of living righteously and doing good works.
Most of the Christians here appear to believe that they are rewarded with eternal life NOT because they live their lives - inspired by Jesus - trying not to be "evil and wicked", but instead they are rewarded with eternal life because they believe they are forgiven - by Jesus, and because of his death - for being "evil and wicked".
Do any Christians dissent from this encapsulation?
Originally posted by @thinkofoneIt's very likely that at some point Jesus wanted people to believe in Him, and said it somewhere in the Bible.
It often seems like poor reading comprehension skills are a prerequisite for believing in "salvation by faith alone".
Originally posted by @chaney3Rajk999's point was that "Jesus said absolutely nothing about believing in His death or any similar nonsense".
It's very likely that at some point Jesus wanted people to believe in Him, and said it somewhere in the Bible.
When Jesus was preaching His gospel He used the terms "believe Him" and "believe in Him" essentially in three different ways:
1) Believe that He has the authority to speak the word of God
2) Believe that His words are the word of God
3) Believe His words in and of themselves.
Jesus did NOT use them to mean to believe in the "redemptive work on the cross for salvation" or what have you.
Originally posted by @wolfgang59"Go and sin no more" is a highly debated topic.
Presumably so did Jesus, otherwise it would be a cruel task he had set her.
It's not possible to be sin free, unless you are Jesus.