Originally posted by @dj2beckerCould we take
I HAVE presented the prophecy in the Bible as evidence. If you reject it as evidence the onus is on you to tell me why it does not qualify as evidence and according to which objective criteria you were able to reach this conclusion. We both know you have no objective criteria so it’s your subjective opinion vs my subjective opinion so we can agree to disagree.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_prophecy
as a starting point?
The first prophecy discussed at that link goes as follows:
Genesis 15:18 promises Abraham and his descendants the land of Canaan from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates, and Genesis 17:8 states:
The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God.[1]
Verses such as Acts 7:4–5 and Hebrews 11:13 indicate that this promise was not accomplished during Abraham's time. F. F. Bruce argues that the fulfilment of this prophecy occurred during David's reign. He writes:
David's sphere of influence now extended from the Egyptian frontier on the Wadi el-Arish (the "brook of Egypt"😉 to the Euphrates; and these limits remained the ideal boundaries of Israel's dominion long after David's empire had disappeared.[2]
Is this evidence that God exists?
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Originally posted by @js357One prophecy on its own is probably not compelling enough and could be coincidence, but when you have more than 300 prophecies fulfilled by one man the mountain of evidence is hard to ignore.
Could we take
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_prophecy
as a starting point?
The first prophecy discussed at that link goes as follows:
Genesis 15:18 promises Abraham and his descendants the land of Canaan from the river of Egypt to the Euphrates, and Genesis 17:8 states:
The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as ...[text shortened]... el's dominion long after David's empire had disappeared.[2]
Is this evidence that God exists?
http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/biblical-prophecies-fulfilled-by-jesus
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThe thing the post you replied to was referring to.
The prerogative to do what?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerWhy do you use the word "coincidence" in this way? Were the writers of the NT unaware of these "300 prophecies" before they created the texts that publicized and promoted the Jesus story/religion? Was Pslams 118:22-24 one of those 300?
One prophecy on its own is probably not compelling enough and could be coincidence, but when you have more than 300 prophecies fulfilled by one man the mountain of evidence is hard to ignore.
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Originally posted by @fmfDo you have any reason to believe that Jesus was a fictional character and that the NT writers fabricated his story? Yes or No?
Why do you use the word "coincidence" in this way? Were the writers of the NT unaware of these "300 prophecies" before they created the texts that publicized and promoted the Jesus story/religion? Was Pslams 118:22-24 one of those 300?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou have sidestepped my questions.
Do you have any reason to believe that Jesus was a fictional character and that the NT writers fabricated his story? Yes or No?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerwhodey also dodged the question of whether the people who created the Jesus story were aware of the ancient texts, repeatedly, earlier on this thread. Now you're doing the same thing.
So have you.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerStill no answer, I see. I know exactly why you and whodey get all evasive like this.
When you say the Jesus story you mean the writers made stuff up?