Originally posted by RJHindsSo for you, the murder of a large number of children whose only sin was to mock an adult, it is ok to kill them, DON'T EVER MOCK ADULTS. That is your motto, it appears, otherwise they get killed.
What are you talking about? Since when are bears accused of murder? The bald guy just asked for justice. You might complain that the manner of justice was harsh and without compassion, but I doubt it rises to the level of murder.
Originally posted by RJHindsdoes it matter who passes the judgement?
Odin is the god and the judge, so how can god the judge passing a judgment for wrongs be evil?
let's change that little fact. let's assume odin is in fact a human, passing judgement. frank is called bald and as a punishment odin declares that 42 children from that town should be killed by bears and the punishment is carried out as odin wants..
evil or not?
Originally posted by RJHindsthe murder was done by odin, true.
What are you talking about? Since when are bears accused of murder? The bald guy just asked for justice. You might complain that the manner of justice was harsh and without compassion, but I doubt it rises to the level of murder.
Originally posted by ZahlanziWell, it seems extreme to me. However, I am not the judge and who am i to judge the judge?
does it matter who passes the judgement?
let's change that little fact. let's assume odin is in fact a human, passing judgement. frank is called bald and as a punishment odin declares that 42 children from that town should be killed by bears and the punishment is carried out as odin wants..
evil or not?
Originally posted by RJHinds"Well, it seems extreme to me"
Well, it seems extreme to me. However, I am not the judge and who am i to judge the judge?
making a fuss that the starbucks kid put too much milk in your latte is extreme. killing 42 children is beyond that. slightly
"However, I am not the judge and who am i to judge the judge?"
are you saying you lack the intelligence to form an opinion on 42 children being killed on an insult? scratch that. on 42 children being killed for whatever reason?
gotcha.
Originally posted by ZahlanziInnocent until proven guilty. Right or wrong?
"Well, it seems extreme to me"
making a fuss that the starbucks kid put too much milk in your latte is extreme. killing 42 children is beyond that. slightly
"However, I am not the judge and who am i to judge the judge?"
are you saying you lack the intelligence to form an opinion on 42 children being killed on an insult? scratch that. on 42 children being killed for whatever reason?
gotcha.
Originally posted by ZahlanziAre you saying the bear is guilty of murder? Was it premeditated, or was it an act of passion?
sure, me first i can agree to that
i say it is evil because a non-zero amount of children were murdered. and just in case there is a misunderstanding, it was deliberate, and it was not self defense
your turn
I'm not quite sure how to address the issue of good and evil in this context. Perhaps you can provide a more concrete example of something less allegorical.
Originally posted by josephw"Are you saying the bear is guilty of murder?"
Are you saying the bear is guilty of murder? Was it premeditated, or was it an act of passion?
I'm not quite sure how to address the issue of good and evil in this context. Perhaps you can provide a more concrete example of something less allegorical.
nobody said that. nobody sane anyway.
"I'm not quite sure how to address the issue of good and evil in this context."
a hypothetical prophet asked his hypothetical god to judge some hypothetical children for mocking his bald head. the hypothetical god overreacted (slightly) and killed 42 children with bears.
was it evil or not? why is this hard to address? i can't be more concrete than this.
of course, we all know you are trying to delay your answer until i get bored and give up. if you don't want to answer, you can always call me evil for mocking god as suzianne did.
Originally posted by Zahlanzi".., we all know you are trying to delay your answer until i get bored and give up."
"Are you saying the bear is guilty of murder?"
nobody said that. nobody sane anyway.
"I'm not quite sure how to address the issue of good and evil in this context."
a hypothetical prophet asked his hypothetical god to judge some hypothetical children for mocking his bald head. the hypothetical god overreacted (slightly) and killed 42 children with bea ...[text shortened]... ve up. if you don't want to answer, you can always call me evil for mocking god as suzianne did.
Well, I really don't think "you all know" what I'm doing, since I'm trying to figure that out my own self! 😉 Please don't ever give up. If you want to know one thing about me know this; I never give up. I don't think you should either.
"..,you can always call me evil..."
Wouldn't do that. You're not evil. Satan is the personification of evil. People do things that can be said to be evil. I think it's a dangerous thing to assume someone, besides Satan, is evil in that sense.
You're asking me to acknowledge and attribute evil to a hypothetical situation. If it were merely a hypothetical I would have to agree. But that's not really what you're driving at is it?
You're convinced that God is not real, so the stories in the Bible to you are fictitious and mythological, and anyone that believes them is impoverished intellectually and morally when they fail to agree with your beliefs.
Something is wrong here wouldn't you agree?