1. Standard memberXanthosNZ
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    Why bother? If I show you anything that contradicts a literal bible account you pretend it doesn't exist.
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    Originally posted by XanthosNZ
    Why bother? If I show you anything that contradicts a literal bible account you pretend it doesn't exist.
    If I tell you that the fossils are product to the biblical flood you pretend as though the Bible does not exist.

    Well I suppose your presuppositions determine how you interpret the evidence.

    PS: The next time you concoct a missing link do a better job that the Nebraskan man.🙂
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    Originally posted by dj2becker
    If I tell you that the fossils are product to the biblical flood you pretend as though the Bible does not exist.

    Well I suppose your presuppositions determine how you interpret the evidence.

    PS: The next time you concoct a missing link do a better job that the Nebraskan man.🙂
    some of the things you say when you say " biblical Flood"
    12) Most of the world's sedimentary rocks dumped on continents to
    average thickness of one mile, almost entirely during the flood year.
    (13) Most continental drift occurs. Flood waters drain into the newly
    formed ocean basins. Atlantic opens at average rate of 1/2 mile per
    hour.
    (14) Most deep sea sediments (average about 1,500 feet thick) collect
    on the newly opened ocean floors.
    (15) Hawaiian volcano built 30,000 feet high on new sea floor. (Cools
    enough for birds and plants from Ark to colonize soon after end of
    flood year.
    16)Volcano of Mount Ararat built 7,000 feet high underwater and cools
    in time for grounding of the Ark.
    (17) Successive Yellowstone ash beds bury 10 to 27 forests one on top
    of another, all grown during single year.
    (18) Grand Canyon cut by receding flood waters. Flood sediments
    de-water and harden in one year to rock strong enough to stand as
    steep, mile-high cliffs
    19)From Ark, Noah (?) directs streams of distinctive animal and plant
    communities to migrate to Africa, Australia, South America, etc.
    (Ferry service ?) (Some creationists use post-flood continental
    drift at rates up to one mile per hour !)
    (20)Sun stands still for Israelite battle. Earth stops rotating and
    then starts again due to near-miss by Venus out of its orbit ?
    (Velikovsky)
    (21)Only one ice age as post-flood atmosphere cools.
    Geologists' abundant evidence of many great ice advances
    separated by sub-tropical vegetation and development of thick soil zones
    between some advances are wrong.
    (22)Late-flood granite masses, formed at 1,000 degrees (F.), cool to
    present low temperatures at rates in violation of all laws of thermal
    physics. Fit to radiometric dates is mere coincidence.
    (23)Extreme rates of continental drift typical of flood (1/2 mile per
    hour) suddenly slow to present-day laser-measured rates of inches per
    year. Accord of present rates with radiometric dates is mere chance.
    (24)Coral reefs (Bikini, Eniwetok) grow 1/2 to 1 mile thick in first
    1,000 years (rate of one foot per month) then slow to present measured rates of inches per century.

    http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/wise.htm
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    28 Jun '05 12:14
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    some of the things you say when you say " biblical Flood"
    12) Most of the world's sedimentary rocks dumped on continents to
    average thickness of one mile, almost entirely during the flood year.
    (13) Most continental drift occurs. Flood waters drain into the newly
    formed ocean basins. Atlantic opens at average rate of 1/2 mile per
    hour. ...[text shortened]... slow to present measured rates of inches per century.

    http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/wise.htm
    I suggest you read "The Genesis Flood
    by John C. Whitcomb"

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/0875523382/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-3216808-3603816
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    28 Jun '05 12:16
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I suggest you read "The Genesis Flood
    by John C. Whitcomb"

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/0875523382/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-3216808-3603816
    Do you EVER think for yourself?
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    28 Jun '05 12:25
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you EVER think for yourself?
    Yes I do.

    Btw: It is impossible to think up everything for yourself. That is why you can refer to someone who is an expert in a certain field which is not your own. If YOU don't do this then why would you expect people just to believe what YOU think?
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    28 Jun '05 12:30
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Yes I do.

    Btw: It is impossible to think up everything for yourself. That is why you can refer to someone who is an expert in a certain field which is not your own. If YOU don't do this then why would you expect people just to believe what YOU think?
    John C. Whitcomb served as Professor of Theology and Old Testament at Grace Theological Seminary, Winona Lake, IN, for 38 years.

    He was graduated with honors from Princeton University in 1948 with a B.A. degree, majoring in ancient and European history. At the end of his freshman year at Princeton, he was led to Christ by Donald B. Fullerton, a former missionary to India.

    In 1951, he was graduated from Grace Theological Seminary with the B.D. degree (high honors) and received the Th.M. degree in 1953 and Th.D. degree in 1957 from the same institution. From 1951 to 1990, he taught in the Department of Old Testament and also in the Department of Christian Theology, in which he served as chairman for many of these years. For twenty years he also served as Director of Doctoral Studies, and for ten years as Editor of Grace Theological Journal.

    What makes a guy who has degrees in History and Theology an "expert" on geology sufficient to write a book about a (non-existent) world wide flood? That's one of your problems; you rely on "experts" who are total frauds and don't know anything more than the average wino on the street.
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    28 Jun '05 12:49
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    I suggest you read "The Genesis Flood
    by John C. Whitcomb"

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/0875523382/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-3216808-3603816
    I suggest you read the equivalent book Donald Duck Takes a Bath.
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    28 Jun '05 13:09
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    John C. Whitcomb served as Professor of Theology and Old Testament at Grace Theological Seminary, Winona Lake, IN, for 38 years.

    He was graduated with honors from Princeton University in 1948 with a B.A. degree, majoring in ancient and European history. At the end of his freshman year at Princeton, he was led to Christ by Donald B. Fullerton, a ...[text shortened]... xperts" who are total frauds and don't know anything more than the average wino on the street.
    Yea. I think I should listen to you. Because anybody that says anything that you disagree with is an idiot.
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    28 Jun '05 13:18
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Yea. I think I should listen to you. Because anybody that says anything that you disagree with is an idiot.
    Do you consider someone with degrees in History and Theology an "expert" on geology?
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    28 Jun '05 14:37
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you consider someone with degrees in History and Theology an "expert" on geology?
    yes he does ,,since he considers somebody with a degree in theology an expert on everything.
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    28 Jun '05 18:51
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Do you consider someone with degrees in History and Theology an "expert" on geology?
    So do you have a degree in geology?
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    28 Jun '05 19:40
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    So do you have a degree in geology?
    YOU called Whitcomb an "expert"; you lied. I never said I was an expert in geology, so I didn't lie. See the difference?
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