Originally posted by sonship
Which do you believe sonhouse ?
Evolution produced those things or God produced those things ?
And if Evolution did, where is your complaint "Nice evolution you have there." ?
Why is your process so very nasty then ? I don't understand your sarcasm in the instance of
God being the Creator but absence of a wisecrack if Evolution is the culpr ...[text shortened]...
Please explain. You'd rather be done over by the Evolution process than a Creator God ?
Complaining about those things if they are the result of evolution is like complaining about the results
of a hurricane on your city.
The hurricane wasn't evil or nasty, it just was.
Complaining about those things if they are the result of your god is like complaining about the results
of a thousand heavy bomber raid on your city.
The heavy bomber raid was done by people, who can be evil ect...
Now there are all kinds of things about life on this planet that suck.
Disease and 'design' flaws being among them.
And these things suck regardless of why they came about.
The difference between them being the arbitrary result of the mindless process of evolution, and the
'carefully' thought out and intended results of gods handiwork... Is that in the latter case there is
a sentient being supposedly capable of moral reasoning behind our sucky world, a being that could
have chosen to make things differently, and that didn't suck.
Evolution is an uncaring force of nature that has no morals, purpose, or desires.
Creatures that are better suited to their environments are more likely to survive long enough to reproduce
and thus are more likely to pass on the genes that made them more successfully to the next generation.
Thus genes that promote survival long enough to reproduce become more common and genes that don't
become less common.
And random mutation provides new genes with corresponding new traits which gives evolution something to
work with.
Nothing in that says that those creatures should enjoy their lives until they have successfully reproduced.
You could be in agonizing pain the whole time as long as it didn't hinder your chances of reproduction.
Evolution is an optimisation process.
Have a listen to the first 8 minutes of this talk. It's on friendly AI but it starts with an example of why evolution
isn't inherently nice.
WE have morals, WE care about outcomes.
Laws of nature don't.