Originally posted by @dj2beckerHole in one.
What could possibly happen at the 102nd turn in a controlled environment that didn’t happen the first 100 times?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerSo the bottom line is you want to equate scientific 'certainty' to religious certainty so you can feel good about being 2000 years behind the times. You know, the part where hundreds of years of scientific reasearch has given you things like effective meds, the internet, crops resistant to bugs or drought and the like, to say nothing about putting men on the moon and seeing for sure Earth actually IS round?
What could possibly happen at the 102nd turn in a controlled environment that didn’t happen the first 100 times?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerSomething different.
What could possibly happen at the 102nd turn in a controlled environment that didn’t happen the first 100 times?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerStatistically it probably will go as expected but you can't be certain the environment will not somehow interfere, your mother calls says Louis is sick, come home now, power might go out, there might be an earthquake, a dozen things might happen to stop the experiment.
It might eventually dawn upon sonhouse...
So the chances will not be 100%, maybe 99.99% but you can't rule out environmental factors.
Originally posted by @sonhouseYou think probability is just an expression of human ignorance?
Statistically it probably will go as expected but you can't be certain the environment will not somehow interfere, your mother calls says Louis is sick, come home now, power might go out, there might be an earthquake, a dozen things might happen to stop the experiment.
So the chances will not be 100%, maybe 99.99% but you can't rule out environmental factors.
Originally posted by @apathistwe already know there are limitations in mathematics, some problems cannnot be solved even by computers a trillion times faster and stronger than those of today. Probability is an expression of human understanding, and advance over previous attempts to understand the universe.
You think probability is just an expression of human ignorance?
What you do not seem to understand is though we have advanced incredibly in the last couple hundred years science is still in kidergarten and will be for a few hundred more, or more than that even.
So you are like a grownup chiding a 6 year old for not getting calculus.
Originally posted by @sonhouseI asked if "You think probability is just an expression of human ignorance?"
we already know there are limitations in mathematics, some problems cannnot be solved even by computers a trillion times faster and stronger than those of today. Probability is an expression of human understanding, and advance over previous attempts to understand the universe.
What you do not seem to understand is though we have advanced incredibly in th ...[text shortened]... or more than that even.
So you are like a grownup chiding a 6 year old for not getting calculus.
I think you just said yes? But it's hard to tell.
Originally posted by @apathistSure, we can't solve some math problems ever, so you can figure humans are fallible and then go on to make noise about how infallible your god is. I would love to see that god show us why the problems math dudes deem unsolvable are in fact able to be solved. Your god might even get the fields medal.
I asked if "You think probability is just an expression of human ignorance?"
I think you just said yes? But it's hard to tell.
Originally posted by @swarminglocustsI 'trust' my friend because they have earned my trust.
is not trust a synonym of faith?
Faith is something one has in the absence of such trust. For example I might lend a friend 10 pounds and trust they will pay it back. However, if I lend a stranger 10 pounds I can only have faith that they will pay back the money. (As they haven't earned my trust).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBut they sure as hell just earned 10 quid🙂
I 'trust' my friend because they have earned my trust.
Faith is something one has in the absence of such trust. For example I might lend a friend 10 pounds and trust they will pay it back. However, if I lend a stranger 10 pounds I can only have faith that they will pay back the money. (As they haven't earned my trust).
Originally posted by @sonhouseI too appreciate math. It is a language, and like all languages it can express anything.
Sure, we can't solve some math problems ever, so you can figure humans are fallible and then go on to make noise about how infallible your god is. ...
Including not-true stuff! I'm not sure you know this.