Faith in science

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I 'trust' my friend because they have earned my trust.

Faith is something one has in the absence of such trust. For example I might lend a friend 10 pounds and trust they will pay it back. However, if I lend a stranger 10 pounds I can only have faith that they will pay back the money. (As they haven't earned my trust).

That is not true. Faith can be defined as "complete trust in someone or something".

Originally posted by @dj2becker
That is not true. Faith can be defined as "complete trust in someone or something".

Note the 'disclaimer' "CAN". That is just Your definition.

Originally posted by @sonhouse
Note the 'disclaimer' "CAN". That is just Your definition.

Indeed. 'Blind trust' is not the same as the trust one puts in something that has justification to support it.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
...Faith can be defined as "complete trust in someone or something".

"...without evidence or reason."

fify

Originally posted by @sonhouse
Note the 'disclaimer' "CAN". That is just Your definition.

Google it yourself. It’s in the dictionary.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Google it yourself. It’s in the dictionary.

That may be ONE definition, you may choose to use that definition and none other but not everyone uses that particular definition.

Originally posted by @sonhouse
That may be ONE definition, you may choose to use that definition and none other but not everyone uses that particular definition.

I’m not saying it’s the only definition but it is a definition that can be used in the context that I have used.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I’m not saying it’s the only definition but it is a definition that can be used in the context that I have used.

I had faith this morning.


Faith being defined as "eggs and bacon".
It is a definition which can be used in the context that I have used it.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
I had faith this morning.


Faith being defined as "eggs and bacon".
It is a definition which can be used in the context that I have used it.

The difference of course is that my definition can be found in the dictionary whereas yours is gobbledegook.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
The difference of course is that my definition can be found in the dictionary whereas yours is gobbledegook.

Putting your faith in a dictionary?
Surely the dictionary definitions are merely subjective opinions of lexicographers?

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Putting your faith in a dictionary?
Surely the dictionary definitions are merely subjective opinions of lexicographers?

On the matter of words and their definitions I would probably rely on a dictionary, wouldn’t you?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
On the matter of words and their definitions I would probably rely on a dictionary, wouldn’t you?

How do words get into the dictionary?
How do the definitions change over time?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
On the matter of words and their definitions I would probably rely on a dictionary, wouldn’t you?

Since you clearly bow to authority, it is no surprise you would rely on a dictionary since you clearly rely on the authority shown in the bible. Same game.

Originally posted by @wolfgang59
How do words get into the dictionary?
How do the definitions change over time?

Well if we don’t use a dictionary as a reference point for the terms we use in debate everyone can define any term as they please and we will all be speaking past each other since you can keep shifting the goalposts at will.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Well if we don’t use a dictionary as a reference point for the terms we use in debate everyone can define any term as they please and we will all be speaking past each other since you can keep shifting the goalposts at will.

So is a dictionary an objective view?