Originally posted by twhiteheadCan you elaborate on what harm and what good comes from your own belief?
For the record, I am not saying it is harmful in sum total. I am saying all belief causes some harm and some good, and the balance is what is important. But to simply say 'my belief causes nobody any harm' I think is naive.
Originally posted by SwissGambitand yet the alternative, believe in life from non life in a pre-biotic soup is not only mathematically improbable, it takes a much greater leap of faith than it does to believe in an intelligent designer.
For some people, the 'irrational' act of believing in God provides a powerful motivation to reform their life. Now, it is easy for a skeptic like myself to write off belief in God as a 'crutch for the weak-minded' in a case like that, but I can't argue with the results.
Point is, a little 'irrationality' can actually help in some cases.
In general, I don't admit that irrationality is always harmful. Mostly, perhaps; but not always.
-Removed-Well what you seem to have understood from my posts is not what is in my posts. You have repeatedly throughout this thread implied that I have said things I have not said. Often not even close.
To reiterate:
1. I have never said that all people who believe irrational things are insane.
2. I have never said that all irrational beliefs are equal.
3. I have never said that your beliefs are harmful because you are Christian - or because I know something about your beliefs.
Yet you have repeatedly implied that I have said all three of the above, even after I correct you.
This is not wriggling on my part, this is a deliberate attempt on your part to find excuses to call me irrational.
And once again, I invite you to tell me in what way you think I am prejudiced and how you think this has affected my judgement in this matter. You keep saying I am prejudiced but I don't think you have said what I am prejudiced against.
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Originally posted by twhiteheadYou have repeatedly throughout this thread implied that I have said things I have not said. Often not even close - twhitehead
Well what you seem to have understood from my posts is not what is in my posts. You have repeatedly throughout this thread implied that I have said things I have not said. Often not even close.
To reiterate:
1. I have never said that all people who believe irrational things are insane.
2. I have never said that all irrational beliefs are equal.
3. I h ...[text shortened]... r. You keep saying I am prejudiced but I don't think you have said what I am prejudiced against.
Indeed the problem lies in his propensity for believing his own propaganda and a rather worrying inability to divorce the prosper from the arguments that they are making. I think this goes partly to explain why someone should ascribe to you values that you have not professed and then to proceed to build arguments against those fabricated values.
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-Removed-It has nothing to do with me, my little caravan or anything but your propensity for believing your own propaganda, your inability to divorce the proposer from the content of his or her post post and fabricating and implying things people have not said. If I was you I would be checking the wheels on my wagon, for they are practically smouldering on the forum floor!
The reason for robbie carrobie's peculiar outburst of ad hominems and apparent anger on this page is most likely the reaction to him comparing himself to Paul here Thread 158762, page 3 onwards.