Fear

Originally posted by josephw
[b]Originally posted by josephw
I fear, therefore I am.


Really?
How does that work exactly?


I fear God. I mean I really fear Him. Therefore I shall live forever.[/b]

😕.Doesn't sound too convincing

Originally posted by josephw
[b]Originally posted by josephw
I fear, therefore I am.


Really?
How does that work exactly?


I fear God. I mean I really fear Him. Therefore I shall live forever.[/b]

you are a slave.

god is not fear. god is love. i don't fear god. i love god. and he loves me.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
you are a slave.

god is not fear. god is love. i don't fear god. i love god. and he loves me.

Are you sure you know God?

Of course He loves you. Of course God is love.

I don't think you understand what the fear of God means.

Torture. Disease. Death - either nonexistence or much less likely suffering after death.

Mostly various forms of pain.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
you are a slave.

god is not fear. god is love. i don't fear god. i love god. and he loves me.

To fear God means to shun evil. This is because God is holy and can take no part in sin. So if you don't want the God of life and love to withdraw himself from you, you know what NOT to do.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Torture. Disease. Death - either nonexistence or much less likely suffering after death.

Mostly various forms of pain.

So do you fear nonexistence or pain the most?

Originally posted by whodey
So do you fear nonexistence or pain the most?

Pain.

Originally posted by josephw
Are you sure you know God?

Of course He loves you. Of course God is love.

I don't think you understand what the fear of God means.

enlighten me then. what it is to fear god? how does god want a flock of sheep to tremble at his every word? is he insecure? will he question his awesomeness if we don't cower in fear? is it a different kind of fear? maybe you think the supreme being depends on us?

One of my favorite movie quotes of alltime comes from the 13th Warrior:

"The All-Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing. " Herger the Joyous to Ibn Fadhlan

Originally posted by Ullr
One of my favorite movie quotes of alltime comes from the 13th Warrior:

"The All-Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing. " Herger the Joyous to Ibn Fadhlan

"Choices always were a problem for you
What you need is someone strong to guide you
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow
Just do everything I tell you to do
Like me

If you want to get your soul to heaven
Trust in me now dont you judge or question
You are broken now your faith heal you..


..Jesus Christ why dont you come save my life now
Open my eyes blind me with your light now..."
-Tool, "Opiate"

Originally posted by Ullr
One of my favorite movie quotes of alltime comes from the 13th Warrior:

"The All-Father wove the skein of your life a long time ago. Go and hide in a hole if you wish, but you won't live one instant longer. Your fate is fixed. Fear profits a man nothing. " Herger the Joyous to Ibn Fadhlan

isn't resignation a form of fear? fear of challenging your fate?

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
isn't resignation a form of fear? fear of challenging your fate?

Yet none of us know what our fate is so there is nothing to resign to.

I think the point of the quote is simply this: It doesn't matter if you run and hide or face your enemies boldly. You are doomed to die in the end no matter what course of action you choose. Thus, in the end, fear profits a man nothing.

Originally posted by whodey
So what are you afraid of? Is it necessary for our survival or does it impeed us from reaching our potential or a combination thereof?

Here are a few of my favorite quotes regarding fear.

"Fear is the mind killer" (Dune)

"I will face my fear and let is pass through me" (Also Dune, I'm a fan you know)

Here are some Biblical quotes regarding fear
g of all wisdom"

And what is the fear of God?

"The fear of God is to shun evil"

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So what are you afraid of?
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I am afraid of an unwise use of TIME.

I fear the foolish wasting of time. Seriously.

Originally posted by jaywill

I am afraid of an unwise use of TIME.

I fear the foolish wasting of time.

Probably better stop posting on internet forums then. Or playing chess for that matter. Wasn't it Morphy who said that time devoted to chess was nothing other than time frittered away?

Originally posted by Teinosuke
Probably better stop posting on internet forums then. Or playing chess for that matter. Wasn't it Morphy who said that time devoted to chess was nothing other than time frittered away?

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Probably better stop posting on internet forums then. Or playing chess for that matter. Wasn't it Morphy who said that time devoted to chess was nothing other than time frittered away?
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Sharing the gospel is not a waste of time.

I do think of those things. However, I am a lousy chess player and am not here to seriously work on improvement. If I was really serious to improve my game I would devote way more time to chess study.

My father who is elderly and my brother are members of the forum and I stay in touch with them through it, over the miles of separation.

My dad is in his 80s and likes to keep in touch with an occasional game with his two sons.

My main reason for being here is not to play chess though. It is to share my faith with people around the world. This is only one of a number of such spirituality forums where I post.

I think Internet Forums attract people who study a certain matter much and look for opportunities to debate and examine questions. If I can enfluence one person to pick up the Bible and read it for themselves I am overjoyed.


But you may be right and I did notice someone said "Life is too short for chess."

Another reason I do play chess as one of a number of intellectual pursuits I have is that I want to keep my mind active as I grow older. I have seen the effect of dementia on loved ones. And I want to keep an active mind.

So I compose music, read, tutor in algebra lately, and give music lessons, and a little chess playing.