@galveston75 saidJesus is the only name we were given in the New Testament, the name of God they didn't write in the OT God's proper name because they were afraid of insulting God. They gave Him descriptive names for who He is as He revealed Himself to them, like the God who provides EL Shaddai among other names that describe Him including Lord. Translating יְהֹוָה (YHWH) in the Old Testament isn't the same as having an Angel come down announcing Jesus is about to be born of a virgin and have Jesus' name given as well as some of the titles He specifically is going to be called.
@KellyJay
So what was the name of God that they used? Jesus or just God, really? Try Ps 83:18 unless your bible has removed it like they did the other 7000 times.
@galveston75 saidHe is the Lord the great “I Am” I don’t see how this is supposed to invalidate anything I have been saying. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, behold oh Israel the Lord is One.
@KellyJay
So what was the name of God that they used? Jesus or just God, really? Try Ps 83:18 unless your bible has removed it like they did the other 7000 times.
@KellyJay saidWhy I'm taking the time to do this..I don't know. So far most of the questions I've asked you have not been answered. But... then maybe you can't????
He is the Lord the great “I Am” I don’t see how this is supposed to invalidate anything I have been saying. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, behold oh Israel the Lord is One.
I'll try a couple more....
What does the description of Jesus mean in that he is "the only Begotten son"?
What does the word "son" mean?
What does the description "first born" mean?
Lets just go with these three for now.
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@KellyJay
Well the first being "afraid" is just stupid. Just another way Satan has attacked Jehovah.
Does this sound familiar? “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified [or hallowed].” (Matthew 6:9)
This was Jesus praying to his Father, right? So who's name was he referring too? His? Nope. It was is his Fathers name which is different then his.......
If I were an ambassador ( a title that Jesus does have ) from a country here on earth and I showed up to your country and told your president that I had a message from my president. And I made the statement that what I say to you is exactly what I was told to say. And then I said this: "When you hear what I say, it is the same as if my president were here talking to you. My president and myself are one in agreement."
Now what does this mean? Any ideas?
@galveston75 saidYou are not reading what I've written if you think I have not answered you, and it is insulting for you to imply that.
Why I'm taking the time to do this..I don't know. So far most of the questions I've asked you have not been answered. But... then maybe you can't????
I'll try a couple more....
What does the description of Jesus mean in that he is "the only Begotten son"?
What does the word "son" mean?
What does the description "first born" mean?
Lets just go with these three for now.
The answers you are getting may not fit your worldview but they are scriptural and I'm not adding or taking away from the text to make my points.
@galveston75 saidJesus is praying to His Father, as in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You are hung up on names, I've shared with you the one name God has given us and it is Jesus the Son of God. You have not once given me a scripture that says God created Jesus or the Holy Spirit making them less than the Father as only created beings. You also did not tell me why Jesus was made perfect and Adam wasn't when I asked you! If God could do that with Jesus, why not Adam if they were both created? You keep coming up with new questions when responses are given to you and if you have an issue with the answers the time to point them out is right then and there not after two more sets of questions have been asked implying I have addressed what you asked, communication requires both to ask and answer questions you are not holding up your end.
@KellyJay
Well the first being "afraid" is just stupid. Just another way Satan has attacked Jehovah.
Does this sound familiar? “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified [or hallowed].” (Matthew 6:9)
This was Jesus praying to his Father, right? So who's name was he referring too? His? Nope. It was is his Fathers name which is different then his....... ...[text shortened]... lking to you. My president and myself are one in agreement."
Now what does this mean? Any ideas?
@KellyJay saidlol. Well we are getting no where. Enjoy your beliefs.....
Jesus is praying to His Father, as in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. You are hung up on names, I've shared with you the one name God has given us and it is Jesus the Son of God. You have not once given me a scripture that says God created Jesus or the Holy Spirit making them less than the Father as only created beings. You also did not tell me why Jesus was made perfect an ...[text shortened]... you asked, communication requires both to ask and answer questions you are not holding up your end.
@galveston75 saidYou asked me questions I responded with scriptural answers that you didn’t give me specific reasons to rejecting what I said. Then I asked you questions and nothing.
lol. Well we are getting no where. Enjoy your beliefs.....
So now you run away without answering my questions or highlighting your reasons for rejecting what I said.
Enjoy my beliefs…
@KellyJay saidExcuse me????? Are you serious??? I responded to your statements. The problem is you are so steeped into the trinity you have no idea what the bible says and that makes it so you don't understand when someone shows it to you..
You asked me questions I responded with scriptural answers that you didn’t give me specific reasons to rejecting what I said. Then I asked you questions and nothing.
So now you run away without answering my questions or highlighting your reasons for rejecting what I said.
Enjoy my beliefs…
You refuse to admit that Jehovah is exactly who the Father is. Father means Father. He is ((( 1 ))) God exactly as the Bible says. Not some mashed up 3 in 1 God. We only pray to him. Not Jesus. Jesus is who we pray "through", not to.
The trinity was never taught in any of the Christian congregations. It wasn't taught at all until 400 years after Jesus died. It's beginnings were from Babylon. You should check that out....
So you claim I haven't answered you?
I've asked you multiple times why you do not use Jehovah's name? The bible clearly says it is "only those who call on his name, not Jesus's name, who will be saved."
But whatever....... You are to smart to fall for the trinity!!!!!
@galveston75 saidI'm very serious, you telling me I don't agree with your doctrine isn't an argument in my opinion it is simply stating your beliefs, which I don't agree with. I've been studying the Bible for over 40 years, I have a working clue and the questions I put to you, you didn't bother answering.
Excuse me????? Are you serious??? I responded to your statements. The problem is you are so steeped into the trinity you have no idea what the bible says and that makes it so you don't understand when someone shows it to you..
You refuse to admit that Jehovah is exactly who the Father is. Father means Father. He is ((( 1 ))) God exactly as the Bible says. Not some mashe ...[text shortened]... us's name, who will be saved."
But whatever....... You are to smart to fall for the trinity!!!!!
I refuse to admit your views on Jehovah are correct, yes, I agree I refuse. If it were half as important as you claim it is, then why didn't Jesus over and over again tell everyone that?
You have not told me where and when God created Jesus or the Holy Spirit, that would seem to be important if what you are suggesting is true.
I don't use Jehovah's name because scripture teaches us to use Jesus' name, and tells us if we do not have the Son we do not have the Father. I quoted you that scripture, and you ignored it.
So show me in the New Testament that Jehovah, not Jesus is the name we to God to be saved by. Show me in either the Old or the New where Jesus and the Holy Spirit created and not eternal! Show me why Jesus said He was the Way, Truth, and Life and no one comes to the Father but through Him (Jesus) not Jehovah! Why did Jesus allow people to worship Him if He were not God?
Trinity: Oneness in unity not in number: Yachid vs. Echad
"Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4
@galveston75 saidJesus being the archangel Michael was never taught in any of the Christian congregations. It wasn't taught at all until 1900 years after Jesus died.
The trinity was never taught in any of the Christian congregations. It wasn't taught at all until 400 years after Jesus died.
I've asked you multiple times why you do not use Jehovah's name? The bible clearly says it is "only those who call on his name, not Jesus's name, who will be saved."
And again, the use of the name 'Jehovah' was an erroneous reading by a Cathodic monk, so you are in fact calling out to an incorrect name. (Which I guess means you wont be saved). You might as well be calling God Jeremy.
@galveston75 saidWhat a petty religion ... a name? NAME ?? Is that what you think God is about? Are you really that stupid ? Your God said .. call me by the right name otherwise you are doomed? To be frank it is only a bunch of morons who will follow after such a ridiculous religion.
Excuse me????? Are you serious??? I responded to your statements. The problem is you are so steeped into the trinity you have no idea what the bible says and that makes it so you don't understand when someone shows it to you..
You refuse to admit that Jehovah is exactly who the Father is. Father means Father. He is ((( 1 ))) God exactly as the Bible says. Not some mashe ...[text shortened]... us's name, who will be saved."
But whatever....... You are to smart to fall for the trinity!!!!!
Here are some critical teachings [not taught by the JWs by the way], and these are what must be followed to get eternal life :
"Do not steal or cheat or lie.
Do not make a promise in my name if you do not intend to keep it; that brings disgrace on my name. I am the LORD your God.
"Do not rob or take advantage of anyone.
Do not hold back the wages of someone you have hired, not even for one night.
Do not curse the deaf or put something in front of the blind so as to make them stumble over it.
Obey me; I am the LORD your God.
"Be honest and just when you make decisions in legal cases; do not show favoritism to the poor or fear the rich.
Do not spread lies about anyone, and when someone is on trial for his life, speak out if your testimony can help him. I am the LORD.
"Do not bear a grudge against others, but settle your differences with them, so that you will not commit a sin because of them.
Do not take revenge on others or continue to hate them, but love your neighbors as you love yourself. I am the LORD.
(Leviticus 19:11-18 GNB)
Not taught I say, because I have been visited dozens of times by JWs over the last 15 years and all they preach about are some of your ridiculous nonsensical bible interpretations.
@Rajk999 said(GNB) Good News Bible? I find this interesting coming from you.
What a petty religion ... a name? NAME ?? Is that what you think God is about? Are you really that stupid ? Your God said .. call me by the right name otherwise you are doomed? To be frank it is only a bunch of morons who will follow after such a ridiculous religion.
Here are some critical teachings [not taught by the JWs by the way], and these are what must be followe ...[text shortened]... st 15 years and all they preach about are some of your ridiculous nonsensical bible interpretations.
Good post, except the last and first sentence or so.
@KingDavid403 saidI usually use the KJV but any decent version will do as long as the meaning is not destroyed. My first and last sentences is the end result of years of Galveston talking the same nonsense. According to the JWs, only those who call God by the right name, will be saved.
(GNB) Good News Bible? I find this interesting coming from you.
Good post, except the last and first sentence or so.