@KellyJay saidSo your view of God and the universe is based on what he told a man 3500 years ago? How technical did you think this man was? It would be like explaining cosmology to a 4 year old.
You can read what I think God did and is doing in Genesis's first couple of chapters. He spoke it was here, He created life blessed it told it to multiply after its kind, and then He formed man out of the earth and breathed life into man.
Can you describe what you think God's method is and how you came to that knowledge?
@Suzianne saidWho said it was all done instantly? I sure didn't or believe I ever have nor do I believe that? The point is non of us were there. But we have seen what Jehovah has given us in the bible. And thru curiosity of this beautiful planet we are of course curious about our home. So yes we have learned much and are still learning today.
My God has no limits on what he can do.
Your God seemingly can't do anything unless it's "instant".
What is time to God?
Again in the Bible, God's word to us, says that "New scrolls will be opened" sometime in our future. Who knows what we will learn about Jehovah and of our existence and of God's realm, space.
@galveston75 saidWritten by The Watchtower Organization, no doubt.
Who said it was all done instantly? I sure didn't or believe I ever have nor do I believe that? The point is non of us were there. But we have seen what Jehovah has given us in the bible. And thru curiosity of this beautiful planet we are of course curious about our home. So yes we have learned much and are still learning today.
Again in the Bible, God's word to us, sa ...[text shortened]... r future. Who knows what we will learn about Jehovah and of our existence and of God's realm, space.
@Suzianne saidGod transcends time, so age is meaningless with Him. As an experiment about time type the same sentence on three separate pages, same words but vary the speed that you type from very slow, not to fast, and as fast as you can. If the paper and words were identical and some else shuffles them, looking at them knowing they were put together at different rates you would not be able to tell one from another. God is not limited in time, it adds nothing or takes away anything from Him, He does do what He says, you trust that or you don’t.
So your view of God and the universe is based on what he told a man 3500 years ago? How technical did you think this man was? It would be like explaining cosmology to a 4 year old.
@galveston75 Who created god??. to what I notice,was man that made god just like all the gods in human history made by humans.
@eye-of-horus-42 No one. But yes all other god's have been made up by man. But....the bible does call other beings "god like" in regards to humans in that they are superior in their physical abilities for example. Satan is also referred to as a god but one that is evil.
@galveston75 saidPeople can sometimes run into category errors, there is a distinction between god, gods, and God.
@eye-of-horus-42 No one. But yes all other god's have been made up by man. But....the bible does call other beings "god like" in regards to humans in that they are superior in their physical abilities for example. Satan is also referred to as a god but one that is evil.
@KellyJay
Yes you are correct. They actually do that with Jesus. Genesis is the perfect example in describing Jesus for who he is. It says in the beginning that he "was a god" and that he"was with God" and was used by Jehovah to help create. Also during the creation of everything in the beginning, in all of those scriptures it was apparent the Jehovah was speaking to someone because of him saying "And God said", and "Let us make man in our image".
Yes Jesus is an extremely powerful spiritual being and he is referred to as "a god" from a humans stand point But he is never referred to as "Almighty God".
@galveston75 saidWe disagree, the text declares everything was made by God and that would not be true if God had made Jesus first, so Jesus the Word of God made flesh is not a created being. You added the word, "a" when speaking about Jesus.
@KellyJay
Yes you are correct. They actually do that with Jesus. Genesis is the perfect example in describing Jesus for who he is. It says in the beginning that he "was a god" and that he"was with God" and was used by Jehovah to help create. Also during the creation of everything in the beginning, in all of those scriptures it was apparent the Jehovah was speaking to som ...[text shortened]... e is referred to as "a god" from a humans stand point But he is never referred to as "Almighty God".
From John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
@KellyJay
Could you please explain this for me? Philippians 2: 5-11
6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. 9 For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground
@galveston75 saidWhat do you find confusing, the Son emptied Himself to take on humanity and became a man. As a man Jesus humbled Himself and lived as a man, in obedience he walked out His life, in obedience to the cross.
@KellyJay
Could you please explain this for me? Philippians 2: 5-11
6 who, although he was existing in God’s form, did not even consider the idea of trying to be equal to God. 7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human. 8 More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a to ...[text shortened]... ame of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground
He laid His life down taking on all of our sin and shame, becoming sin, that the righteousness of God be given to man. At that point the Father crushes the Son for our sake taking on all the punishment we should have done to us.
That God in RIGHTEOUSNESS gives us His Righteousness, and be our Justifier. So when we come before God we do do in the righteousness Jesus provides, so we bow our knees to Him, all that God requires is found in Jesus!
@KellyJay You believe that Jesus, the son, and Jehovah, the Father are the same spirit being...right?
If so please explain the scripture I asked you to explain....
@galveston75 saidGod the Father is God, God the Son is God, God the Holy Spirit is God, these are three persons One God. Do you believe in Polytheism, or do you accept there is One God. Do you believe Jesus was created so that the scriptures are wrong when they say everything was created through Him?
@KellyJay You believe that Jesus, the son, and Jehovah, the Father are the same spirit being...right?
If so please explain the scripture I asked you to explain....
Concerning your first question, you didn’t respond to my explanation of scripture, you didn’t explain your specifics in what you had issues with. Why should I repeat myself, you have not bothered to explain yourself. You just ask another question without engaging with the first response. If you are going to engage in communication on this topic, it is two way or nothing. By you asking and then ignoring is no different from simply asking and not even bothering to read the response.
@KellyJay
Well two things. You had mentioned that people misunderstand what god is and how it's miss applied. You are correct. This is where the trinity comes in and how it confuses the truth of who the FATHER Jehovah is, who his SON Jesus is and WHAT the holy spirit is (not a part of Jesus at all but it only applies to Jehovah's power). That's why it has never been called by a name.
I notice you have not used the name Jehovah at all. Why not? You do know it has been methodically removed from most bibles?
And why do you not use the term Trinity? You may not admit you believe it but you do....
Finally the reason for the scripture I asked you to explain, which it doesn't seem you can, is because it in no way supports the trinity which you seemingly don't know you believe in? Right?