Originally posted by twhitehead
So the forgiveness in question, is not about the person being forgiven, but about the forgiver? ie it is a selfish thing.
That seems to be totally opposite to Jesus' general message of love for one another.
yo its me, do you have any comment on this? Is this the kind of forgiveness that you believe is part of most religions?
I don't see it quite the way you are expressing it there. Consider, if you will, the parental punishment of an errant child. Do you think that the parent suspends their love during the punishment? And on from that, do you think that Jesus' message of love and forgiveness extends to non-punishment of criminals?
I think that bearing of a grudge is not necessary to provide caution regarding placing trust in someone who has demonstrated themselves unworthy of that. One can forgive them, love them according to Jesus' instructions, and still institute fair punishment and abstain from crediting them with one's trust again. The offender may of course earn one's trust again in the future, once society's penalty has been paid.
I don't
think this is really a selfish attitude towards forgiveness. This to my mind is following the golden rule - treating others as one would wish to be treated one's self. I would not wish my 'victim' to suffer onwards due to his inability to forgive me, and neither would I expect his forgiveness to involve the waiving of my fair sentence in law.
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Love and hate go together.
I don't think this is a healthy attitude. I believe that hate is a purely negative emotion which can only hurt the hater.