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Originally posted by SharpeMotherDo you have scripture to back up your claim on your #1 point? I'd like
I'm sorry to disagree with you as well, but I feel I must reply:
1. Speaking in tongues progressed until all the nations had heard it DURING THAT TIME, and then ended. But now that we have the completed Word of God the gift of tongues has ended.
2. It is true that tongues were meant for the edification of that person being spoken to. And yes, th God) we can learn their language and provide them with a translated Version of the Bible.
you to show me the verse that says God will give tongues until such
time as all the nations hear, in addition I'd like your scripture that also
says God will stop giving the gift of tongues when the Word is
complete. If you plan on using 1 Corinthians 13, I'd say be ready to
back up your assertion.
Your #2 is meant as an argument against speaking in tongues today?
To me you only show that there are variety kinds of gifts and some
are better than others for the edifying of the church, which implies
that tongues is still a means by which the church is to be edified if
used when there is one who interprets too.
Your #3 Yes God is true and man is bad.
The rest of your post is your opinion, and it isn't scriptural in nature.
As far as tongues being some weak gift, I'd point out God gives the
gift for a reason, if we receive edification by a gift of God who are you
to judge it as something unworthy or less than anything else? There
are many things in life that are only recommended to be done in
certain settings such as prayer, when one gives, and so on. So I fail
to see how what you wrote was a slam against speaking in tongues,
it all seems very reasonable to me that is part of reality today in the
Body of Christ.
Kelly
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I actually began posting in this forum, and asked before I did, because I said I was a Christian and I did speak in tongues. Several posters here said they would be interested in my experiences. I really know that this is real and I'm not babbling. It is a gift that I'm proud and thankful to use. If there are questions that are directed specifically to me I would be glad to try my best to answer them. It's real easy to be drawn into a debate. I just wanted to share what I know.
Thanks everyone.
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Originally posted by safetymanI share some of your experiences than.
I actually began posting in this forum, and asked before I did, because I said I was a Christian and I did speak in tongues. Several posters here said they would be interested in my experiences. I really know that this is real and I'm not babbling. It is a gift that I'm proud and thankful to use. If there are questions that are directed specifically to real easy to be drawn into a debate. I just wanted to share what I know.
Thanks everyone.
Kelly
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Originally posted by KellyJayI don't think that "non-scriptural" glossolalia are necessarily fake--they are simply not in a Christian context. Diamanda Galas employs glossolalia as an artist--it's perfectly legitimate in her context. That being said, your experience is also genuine--the question (for me) is what it means in my context.
Having some version that is satanic emotions, or even having some
people make it up as they go does not mean that it isn't happening
scripturally, it only means that there are fakers and counterfeits out
there. Which as we all know having fake money does not mean that
there isn't real money out there, having the fake doesn’t mean the
real isn’t real.
Kelly
Originally posted by EcstremeVenomNo, but it does say quite a lot both about (a) the bible, and (b) God, that He'd knowingly inspire a book in such a way to make multiple groups of his own followers to despise each other.
it is a stupid point. do you expect God to stop people from disagreeing? that would be lame.
Originally posted by scottishinnzthey disagreed, you do not have to despise someone to disagree.
No, but it does say quite a lot both about (a) the bible, and (b) God, that He'd knowingly inspire a book in such a way to make multiple groups of his own followers to despise each other.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageSpeaking in tongues through another source other than by gift of the
I don't think that "non-scriptural" glossolalia are necessarily fake--they are simply not in a Christian context. Diamanda Galas employs glossolalia as an artist--it's perfectly legitimate in her context. That being said, your experience is also genuine--the question (for me) is what it means in my context.
Holy Spirit like other religions that avoid God are simply false in
nature. So if one is making it up to appear like you’re doing it, the
person is being false. We could also say that which is done through
a satanic source though legitimately real would still be a counterfeit
of the real, which is like saying counterfeit five dollar bills are real
in that you can touch them, they just do not have the backing of the
true founder of five dollar bills.
Kelly
Originally posted by scottishinnzI'll say that, children of God do not despise each other solely upon
So, you are saying that none of the "children of God" don't despise each other based solely upon differences in either their interpretation of scripture or their perception of God?
the differences of their interpretation if they are mature in Christ, if
someone does they are walking in the flesh much like you do daily.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayThat presupposes a certain perspective, doesn't it.
Speaking in tongues through another source other than by gift of the
Holy Spirit like other religions that avoid God are simply false in
nature.
In my view, the phenomenon of glossolalia in its spiritual aspect is not limited to Christianity--witness the rabbi at the link I provided. Of course, that is probably where we will always disagree.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWell, if God didn't send His Son here, if the Holy Spirit didn't come
That presupposes a certain perspective, doesn't it.
In my view, the phenomenon of glossolalia in its spiritual aspect is not limited to Christianity--witness the rabbi at the link I provided. Of course, that is probably where we will always disagree.
giving the gift of tongues to the church of God, I'd have to say all
bets are off, and it can be whatever we want it to be.
If God is the true source tongues, and through the Holy Spirit does
God lead us and guide us and teach us about Jesus and God the
Father than what I said is true about togues no matter what a rabbi
says.
Kelly