Something I have said several times here, I want freedom FROM religion. Now I find out ( from a little ad in Scientific American) other people thought the exact same thing!
http://ffrf.org/
One of their sayings: Freedom from religion, reason's greetings!
Wow, unbeknownst to me, I found their facebook page and found my son Kevin is part of the group! I can't wait to talk to him about it.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by Rajk999Perhaps there is a god or two but it is clear if there is, it is keeping strictly hands off on humans. We play out our destiny with no help for said alleged god, it will not be coming down to fix our boo boo's if we off ourselves by the billions, if we off ALL of ourselves in some really creative stupid way, said alleged god would just shrug its invisible shoulders and go, time to start another experiment, these dudes failed. NEXT.
Thankfully there is a God.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by sonhouseIs that your beef with religion, that you think religious people are waiting for God to fix things?
Perhaps there is a god or two but it is clear if there is, it is keeping strictly hands off on humans. We play out our destiny with no help for said alleged god, it will not be coming down to fix our boo boo's if we off ourselves by the billions, if we off ALL of ourselves in some really creative stupid way, said alleged god would just shrug its invisible shoulders and go, time to start another experiment, these dudes failed. NEXT.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by Rajk999That's only ONE thing. They desperately hope a god will come down to fix all the bad stuff. Hasn't happened in the past 2000 years so there is no indication it will happen in the next 2000.
Is that your beef with religion, that you think religious people are waiting for God to fix things?
The other thing is the dumbing down of America by the religious right wing nutters who want to FORCE creationism to be taught as if it were an actual science which would confuse the hell out of young minds. It will cause the US educational system to slide that much further down the path of obscurity which we are doing our best to get to already. The US is what, number 17 or worse in educational development compared to other developed countries, now we have lost first place in the number of scientific papers published, that is already a done deal.
The religious right wing nutters don't give a rat's ass about that as long as we all go to church and just believe, trust us, we KNOW what is good for you.
Oh, of course women are second class citizens and will go down even further if the right wing religious nutters actually take over the government like they really want. Their desires go WAY past merely forcing creationism to be taught in a science classroom, their ultimate goal is to destroy evolution COMPLETELY and utterly and leave nothing BUT creationism to be taught in science classes.
Their goal is extremely clear: They want a christian version of the Islamification of the US and then if they can, the whole world.
They latch on to the 'men are worth 50 shekels, women only 30 shekels', to keep men on top of the societal totem pole, making women more of a permanent sex object. So they want to cut off 50% of the brainpower of the human race to further their sick aims.
I for one will fight those bastids tooth and nail.
Make no mistake, there is a minority of christians who are waging war on reason and I and others like me will NEVER give in to their sick agenda.
Individual christians I have nothing against. The likes of RJ Hinds and his buddies in the extreme right I will fight to the death.
Some christians actually do good. But the higher up the leadership ladder you go, the more corrupt they become. It seems to go with the territory.
Just like the KKK leaders who would say "I never told that guy to go out and kill Niggers'', but they get their point across and let the underlings do the dirty work while the leaders sit back on their thrones collecting the accolades of their crowd.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by sonhouseYou've just now found out about them? My wife and I have been members for years.
Something I have said several times here, I want freedom FROM religion. Now I find out ( from a little ad in Scientific American) other people thought the exact same thing!
http://ffrf.org/
One of their sayings: Freedom from religion, reason's greetings!
Wow, unbeknownst to me, I found their facebook page and found my son Kevin is part of the group! I can't wait to talk to him about it.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by RJHindsIf I could figure out an anti religion virus that would destroy the memory of religions around the world I would let it loose in a trice.
So you want to take away our freedom of religion. That does not sound very patriotic.
The Instructor
People looking at the bible, going, we believed in THAT shyte?
What a lovely future to contemplate.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by sonhouseBut as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
If I could figure out an anti religion virus that would destroy the memory of religions around the world I would let it loose in a trice.
People looking at the bible, going, we believed in THAT shyte?
What a lovely future to contemplate.
(1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV)
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by RJHindsYou can't even see the whole idea of a god that requires love is clearly a man made attribute. You can spout all the so-called scripture all you want, it doesn't change the fact that your religion is the result of intelligent design. HUMAN intelligent design.
[b]But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
(1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV)
HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
The Instructor[/b]
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by sonhouseMohammad loves you. 😵
Something I have said several times here, I want freedom FROM religion. Now I find out ( from a little ad in Scientific American) other people thought the exact same thing!
http://ffrf.org/
One of their sayings: Freedom from religion, reason's greetings!
Wow, unbeknownst to me, I found their facebook page and found my son Kevin is part of the group! I can't wait to talk to him about it.
Originally posted by sonhouseI totally agree with some of what you say here. But clearly you are focussing on the extremist element of religion and using that as a basis to condemn all religion. The fact is that most religious people live very normal lives with very moderate and tolerant views.
That's only ONE thing. They desperately hope a god will come down to fix all the bad stuff. Hasn't happened in the past 2000 years so there is no indication it will happen in the next 2000.
The other thing is the dumbing down of America by the religious right wing nutters who want to FORCE creationism to be taught as if it were an actual science which w ...[text shortened]... rk while the leaders sit back on their thrones collecting the accolades of their crowd.
There is only a very small part of Christianity that believes that the world will be destroyed and a few chosen will be saved. There is only a very small part of Christianity who still treat women as lesser citizens. Creationism taught in schools is a petty non-issue. So if as you say the RJH type are in such a small minority why not let the vast majority be your guide as to how you judge Christians and religion.
21 Sep 13
Originally posted by Rajk999I have said before the average christian or muslim is no threat. The threat comes from the fact that these extremists seem to gather a lot of political power such as the fight to get creationism taught in science classes in the US. This is not an idle threat. They have a lot of money backing them up. This is a real war and it has to be won by legal battles. Their agenda doesn't stop at simply forcing creationism to be taught in science classes. That is just a stop along the way, the true goal is to Islamizise the US but in christian cloaks, women's reproductive rights down the tubes, abortion totally illegal even in cases of rape and so forth. THIS is the battle being fought by these minority right wing religious perverts.
I totally agree with some of what you say here. But clearly you are focussing on the extremist element of religion and using that as a basis to condemn all religion. The fact is that most religious people live very normal lives with very moderate and tolerant views.
There is only a very small part of Christianity that believes that the world will be destr ...[text shortened]... inority why not let the vast majority be your guide as to how you judge Christians and religion.