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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe Integrity of God's Character; and the Person and Work (Substitutionary Spiritual Death of Christ on Our Behalf) Define the Basis and Means of Genuine Human Happiness.
[b]Genuine Human Happiness
The Integrity of God's Character; and the Person and Work (Substitutionary Spiritual Death of Christ on Our Behalf) Define the Basis and Means of Genuine Human Happiness. Let's have a relaxed conversation. No repetitive interrogatories or ill tempered rants, please. All constuctive comments and opinions, welcome. If you got an uncomfortable hair across your buttocks or brain, today, please stay home. Thank You.[/b]
WTF? Vacuous gibberish.
First, 'happiness' is consistent with merely some transitory state; so perhaps 'eudaimonia' is more to the point as some prolonged state of flourishing. To my mind, happiness itself is not a viable chief objective in itself, but I think there are at least three things at issue that conduce to a flourishing way of life, where happiness and contentment grow endogenously and naturally. One is cultivation of the virtues; two is the reasoned pursuit of, and success in, things we value; three is a reasoned understanding of circumstances beyond our control.
A majority of these are pretty well captured in the Serenity Prayer (notwithstanding the fact that it is addressed to a nonexistent):
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatThere are all sorts of human desires that are not self-centered. The empirical thesis that all human motivations are self-centered is called psychological egoism, and psychological egoism is emphatically false.
How interesting! Please, tell me one desire of yours which is not self-centred.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyBy the "IoGC" and the "PaW(SSDoCoOB)" I assume you mean: these are the notes, here is the response... the response being acceptance of the same, and thus...
[b]Genuine Human Happiness
The Integrity of God's Character; and the Person and Work (Substitutionary Spiritual Death of Christ on Our Behalf) Define the Basis and Means of Genuine Human Happiness. Let's have a relaxed conversation. No repetitive interrogatories or ill tempered rants, please. All constuctive comments and opinions, welcome. If you ...[text shortened]... got an uncomfortable hair across your buttocks or brain, today, please stay home. Thank You.[/b]
human happiness.
Do I have that about right?
That being established, for those who see the cycle, the sun rises and sets in thunderous affirmation.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatTell you what, it would seem that LJ might be interested in educating you on this topic. Or you could put your big boy pants on and educate yourself. I have no interest in indulging your childishness.
Uhuh, yes I see. Now please tell me what your motivation for this desire is?
Originally posted by LemonJelloSo you're saying that happiness is not the goal of the thing we call human?
[b]The Integrity of God's Character; and the Person and Work (Substitutionary Spiritual Death of Christ on Our Behalf) Define the Basis and Means of Genuine Human Happiness.
WTF? Vacuous gibberish.
First, 'happiness' is consistent with merely some transitory state; so perhaps 'eudaimonia' is more to the point as some prolonged state of flourish ...[text shortened]... hange,
The courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.[/quote][/b]
That is perposterous!
You wouldn't argue without that goal in mind!
Originally posted by LemonJelloMuch as I long to agree with you, I would have to beg to differ. Self-interest is not the same as self-centred.
There are all sorts of human desires that are not self-centered. The empirical thesis that all human motivations are self-centered is called psychological egoism, and psychological egoism is emphatically false.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneWell I am a little disappointed but not altogether surprised, I'm sure you're clever enough to figure out where this was going to end. Still, those masterfully crafted attempts at patronising rejoinder must have made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, so I guess all was not lost.
Tell you what, it would seem that LJ might be interested in educating you on this topic. Or you could put your big boy pants on and educate yourself. I have no interest in indulging your childishness.
Originally posted by avalanchethecatJust do yourself a favor and get educated on this topic rather than being content in wallowing in your ignorance.
Well I am a little disappointed but not altogether surprised, I'm sure you're clever enough to figure out where this was going to end. Still, those masterfully crafted attempts at patronising rejoinder must have made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, so I guess all was not lost.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIs this your favourite method of discussion? It makes you look a bit of a dick you know, which I'm sure isn't the case. Perhaps, given your superior education, you could just indulge my childish desire to demonstrate my ignorance?
Just do yourself a favor and get educated on this topic rather than being content in wallowing in your ignorance.
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageJob's not interested in any hypothetical answers from the likes of you or me. Job was blessed with prosperity and happiness, despite the severe testing for blessing (and example to the fallen angels and community in which he resided) he was chosen to undergo. Let's not be hasty in moving on; let's dwell for a few moments on the content of Job 1:10. Suggest you read the commentaries and notes on the import of the original languages of the day in which this Old Testament Book was written:
Moving on. What answer would you give Job?
http://www.godvine.com/bible/Job/1-10
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