Originally posted by @suzianne The integral problem with mentally masturbatory mind games is if your "ifs" are untrue, then your argument crumbles to dust, blown away with the wind, becoming as transitory and as substantial as the wind.
How is this in any way an answer to my point about there being a moral difference between torturing billions of people with no end and absolutely not torturing any of them? Labelling my point "mentally masturbatory" is just a deflection.
Originally posted by @kellyjay I disagree I believe it is very clear salvation and damnation are both eternal. It is a matter of what scripture says not what we find acceptable or not.
And like so many Christians, you are certain that your interpretation of of those scriptures is correct?
Originally posted by @suzianne This is never mentioned enough in this forum.
What happens if one fails Judgement cannot be nearly as important as making sure that one does not fail Judgement.
All the rest of the arguing here is inconsequential when examined under this light.
And you never challenge the likes of sonship, kellyjay or any of the other purveyors of the disgusting doctrine of death about eternal suffering which casts our Lord in a terrible light. You NEVER challenge them, not once NEVER.
Originally posted by @suzianne I don't know about Tom, but I sincerely can't be bothered to give even half a rat's ass if 'annihilation doctrine' would make atheists believe in "supernatural beings and phenomena" or not, or want to "praise" my God or not. I don't believe or disbelieve ANY doctrine based on what atheists think of it. What makes you think this is a moving concern for us?
What do you “give a rats ass about” Suzianne, spiritually speaking I mean? What truths do you want to contend for, clearly you don’t care is our Lord Jesus is smeared by KellyJay and sonship as being a terrorist.
Originally posted by @divegeester And you never challenge the likes of sonship, kellyjay or any of the other purveyors of the disgusting doctrine of death about eternal suffering which casts our Lord in a terrible light. You NEVER challenge them, not once NEVER.
You are a flake.
There's a reason for that, a reason I've mentioned several times in this forum, as recently as a few days ago. If you'd pay even half as much attention to other people in this forum as you demand that we pay to you, then you'd know what that reason is.
That you spend sooooooo much time in this forum bitching about others' supposed moral lapses while ignoring your own, tells me everything I need to know and makes me even less inclined to talk to you than I already am.
Originally posted by @divegeester What do you “give a rats ass about” Suzianne, spiritually speaking I mean? What truths do you want to contend for, clearly you don’t care is our Lord Jesus is smeared by KellyJay and sonship as being a terrorist.
Please, stop begging for my attention. It's unbecoming.
Originally posted by @fmf How is this in any way an answer to my point about there being a moral difference between torturing billions of people with no end and absolutely not torturing any of them? Labelling my point "mentally masturbatory" is just a deflection.
There is no valid answer to your point because your "point" is not valid.
Did I "dumb down" my answer enough for you or do you need something else, like a definition of every word I used?
FMF: How is this in any way an answer to my point about there being a moral difference between torturing billions of people with no end and absolutely not torturing any of them?
Originally posted by @suzianne [b]There is no valid answer to your point because your "point" is not valid.
sonship has spent perhaps 10,000 posts promoting 'torturing billions of people with no end' as being "perfect morality". Probably most of the active Christians here agree with him. You can't make that moral debate go away by telling me my point is "not valid" when I have simply reiterated what the disagreement between Christians is.
god is evil
19 Jul '18 05:44
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