Originally posted by checkbaiterSo there is no metonymy in Isaiah then?
[b]“Today we can look back into the Old Testament, see Metonymy of the Subject and understand why God had to use this figure of speech. It seems clear that without the power to fight the Devil, people were better off not knowing about him. In His abounding love, God “took the blame” for good and evil, telling His people that if they believed and obeyed H ...[text shortened]... ok a little more deeply to who God and Jesus really are.
I assure you they are loving and good.
Originally posted by checkbaiterNo, you are not explaining it. If you get into the Isaiah verse then you will see that your logic fails, so you post some irrelevant nonsense hoping that you can baffle people with BS from some website.
Yes, the whole verse is. You are not grasping it.
There is no metonymy in this:
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:6-7 KJV)
God says:
- He forms the light
- He creates darkness
- He makes peace
- He creates evil.
- HE DOES ALL THESE THINGS.
Now if you try to claim that part of evil does not apply then the entire passage would not apply.
Here where Im from we call that donkey logic. Good luck to you pal.
Originally posted by Rajk999This is why I cannot communicate with you. You resort to name calling and are short tempered, which shows why you don't live to the standards of Jesus which you so vehemently say you cling to, or at least espouse and demand others to.
No, you are not explaining it. If you get into the Isaiah verse then you will see that your logic fails, so you post some irrelevant nonsense hoping that you can baffle people with BS from some website.
There is no metonymy in this:
[i]That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and the ...[text shortened]... passage would not apply.
Here where Im from we call that donkey logic. Good luck to you pal.
You live in a small self imposed world. You speak to and understand donkeys, whatever that means.
I think I offered a reasonable explanation why God is not responsible for evil but it is beyond your grasp, or you disagree, so please move along to another thread and leave this for the adults...thank you.
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Originally posted by checkbaiterActually you just cannot communicate with anyone. No question posed to you, are you addressing properly.
This is why I cannot communicate with you. You resort to name calling and are short tempered, which shows why you don't live to the standards of Jesus which you so vehemently say you cling to, or at least espouse and demand others to.
You live in a small self imposed world. You speak to and understand donkeys, whatever that means.
I think I offered a ...[text shortened]... you disagree, so please move along to another thread and leave this for the adults...thank you.
God says:
- He forms the light
- He creates darkness
- He makes peace
- He creates evil.
- HE DOES ALL THESE THINGS.
What in that is metonymy
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Originally posted by checkbaiterSo only the angels were mating with women? What happened to the male humans? Did they just decide to stop having sex and no longer reproduced?
Because there were only 8 humans left. He saved them on the Ark.
Furthermore:
Genesis: 6:5:
"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagining of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
"Man" means human. Not supernatural half-demons.
Originally posted by vivifyThey were human, but they were demon possessed to such a degree that they were beyond help. Satan was doing everything in his power to stop the promise of Gen 3:15.
So only the angels were mating with women? What happened to the male humans? Did they just decide to stop having sex and no longer reproduced?
Furthermore:
Genesis: 6:5:
"And God saw that the wickedness of [b]man was great in the earth, and that every imagining of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
"Man" means human. Not supernatural half-demons.[/b]
Originally posted by checkbaiterHebrews 11:7 says, “By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.”
They were human, but they were demon possessed to such a degree that they were beyond help. Satan was doing everything in his power to stop the promise of Gen 3:15.
If God didn't intend to wipe out mankind, then Noah's household would not have needed "saving". Clearly, God intended to wipe out mankind, Noah included. So again, God doesn't care one bit about what's "legal".
Originally posted by Rajk999It is interesting that the bible seems to mock my own beliefs 🙂
God says:
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness:[b] I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:6-7 KJV)
I think thats clear enough. We dont need another youtube religion to tell us what the Bible says clearly.[/b]
Originally posted by checkbaiterWeren't you just now ~ in the same post, in fact ~ accusing the person you're replying to of resorting to name calling and being short tempered? And yet it seems to be you who is lashing out here.
You live in a small self imposed world. You speak to and understand donkeys, whatever that means. I think I offered a reasonable explanation why God is not responsible for evil but it is beyond your grasp, or you disagree, so please move along to another thread and leave this for the adults...thank you.
Originally posted by vivifyHuh? Am I missing something here? These eight humans were the only ones saved from destruction. They were the only somewhat God fearing people left. The bloodline to Christ went through Noah.
Hebrews 11:7 says, “By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.”
If God didn't intend to wipe out mankind, then Noah's household would not have needed "saving". Clearly, ...[text shortened]... ed to wipe out mankind, Noah included. So again, God doesn't care one bit about what's "legal".