@fmf saidYou say it is possible big deal with that as the baseline no response can be rejected or accepted. If you cannot acknowledge there needs to be something other than blind mindlessness involved, how could you possibly discern what would be the requirements of such a one?
Believe otherwise...?
Are you not reading my posts?
@indonesia-phil saidScience has not even floated an answer on origins that has anything more than hypotheticals in it, if you think you saw something that you feel justifies your stance by all means share.
Well, you've answered my question without intending to answer it, so I'll leave it there. As a final word, though, if science has only 50% of the answer to 'the big questions', or only 10%, or only 1%, then it's 50% or 10% or 1% more than your non - evidential, non - questioning belief in a mythological creator entity will ever have.
@kellyjay saidWith the term "blind mindlessness", it still sounds like the you're stuck trying to attach humanoid attributes to your personal, subjective notion of a creator entity.
If you cannot acknowledge there needs to be something other than blind mindlessness involved, how could you possibly discern what would be the requirements of such a one?
Why are the "requirements" you "discern" relevant to me? Even Philokalia has conceded that he believes the creator entity "is unknowable".
If you and he feel the need to anthropomorphize it anyway, then what onus do you really think that places on me?
@fmf saidReally, so when I say that the universe and life can’t come about due to the functional complexities in them, by a mindless, goalless, uncaring process! You are not taking a side? When I say we can not reach God, but God can reach us, you are not taking a side? When you speak about my views you don’t use demeaning verbiage to describe them? I would hate to see you take a side considering how you speak while not taking one.
I'm not asking you to accept or reject anything.
@kellyjay saidI accept that this is what you believe and I also recognize that the unkowable mystery of it makes you feel the need to essentially anthropomorphize the nature and origin of the universe.
Really, so when I say that the universe and life can’t come about due to the functional complexities in them, by a mindless, goalless, uncaring process! You are not taking a side?
@kellyjay saidI sometimes describe your intellectual and interpersonal behaviour here on this message board in ways that you don't like and disagree with but I don't use "demesning verbiage" to describe your religious beliefs.
When you speak about my views you don’t use demeaning verbiage to describe them?
@fmf saidYou have it backward; we were made in God's image; unless you make up your own God, we are not making Him into our image.
I accept that this is what you believe and I also recognize that the unkowable mystery of it makes you feel the need to essentially anthropomorphize the nature and origin of the universe.