Good behaviours vs beliefs

@divegeester said
But nobody knows for certain, so your point is moot.

How do you know, no knows for certain if you don’t?

@fmf said
Believe otherwise...?

Are you not reading my posts?

You say it is possible big deal with that as the baseline no response can be rejected or accepted. If you cannot acknowledge there needs to be something other than blind mindlessness involved, how could you possibly discern what would be the requirements of such a one?

@indonesia-phil said
Well, you've answered my question without intending to answer it, so I'll leave it there. As a final word, though, if science has only 50% of the answer to 'the big questions', or only 10%, or only 1%, then it's 50% or 10% or 1% more than your non - evidential, non - questioning belief in a mythological creator entity will ever have.

Science has not even floated an answer on origins that has anything more than hypotheticals in it, if you think you saw something that you feel justifies your stance by all means share.

@kellyjay said
You say it is possible big deal with that as the baseline no response can be rejected or accepted.

I'm not asking you to accept or reject anything.

@kellyjay said
If you cannot acknowledge there needs to be something other than blind mindlessness involved, how could you possibly discern what would be the requirements of such a one?

With the term "blind mindlessness", it still sounds like the you're stuck trying to attach humanoid attributes to your personal, subjective notion of a creator entity.

Why are the "requirements" you "discern" relevant to me? Even Philokalia has conceded that he believes the creator entity "is unknowable".

If you and he feel the need to anthropomorphize it anyway, then what onus do you really think that places on me?

@fmf said
I'm not asking you to accept or reject anything.

Really, so when I say that the universe and life can’t come about due to the functional complexities in them, by a mindless, goalless, uncaring process! You are not taking a side? When I say we can not reach God, but God can reach us, you are not taking a side? When you speak about my views you don’t use demeaning verbiage to describe them? I would hate to see you take a side considering how you speak while not taking one.

@kellyjay said
How do you know, no knows for certain if you don’t?

Do you know someone how can provide evidence?

No, you don’t.
So stop being silly

@kellyjay said
Really, so when I say that the universe and life can’t come about due to the functional complexities in them, by a mindless, goalless, uncaring process! You are not taking a side?

I accept that this is what you believe and I also recognize that the unkowable mystery of it makes you feel the need to essentially anthropomorphize the nature and origin of the universe.

@kellyjay said
When I say we can not reach God, but God can reach us, you are not taking a side?

I accept that this is what you believe as a result of your religious faith.

@kellyjay said
When you speak about my views you don’t use demeaning verbiage to describe them?

I sometimes describe your intellectual and interpersonal behaviour here on this message board in ways that you don't like and disagree with but I don't use "demesning verbiage" to describe your religious beliefs.

@kellyjay said
You say it is possible big deal with that as the baseline no response can be rejected or accepted.

I'm not asking you to accept or reject any of my perspectives.

@kellyjay said
I would hate to see you take a side considering how you speak while not taking one.

The question "why do you have to anthropomorphize the creator entity?" seems to have got you all het up.

@fmf said
I accept that this is what you believe and I also recognize that the unkowable mystery of it makes you feel the need to essentially anthropomorphize the nature and origin of the universe.

You have it backward; we were made in God's image; unless you make up your own God, we are not making Him into our image.

@fmf said
I accept that this is what you believe as a result of your religious faith.

I accept you reject this because you are an anti-Christ.

@fmf said
I sometimes describe your intellectual and interpersonal behaviour here on this message board in ways that you don't like and disagree with but I don't use "demesning verbiage" to describe your religious beliefs.

Lying is very unbecoming.