31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidYou have a point?
This type of reply by you is what FMF is calling “disingenuous”
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31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidKellyjay…?
Third time of asking then…
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
Fourth time of asking.
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
@kellyjay saidWell, if it were an objective fact that I was going to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, then you would simply demonstrate the truth of it to me.
You are making a very definitive claim about all we know!
But you can't, can you? Your faith - about rewards and punishments for believing/not-believing in your particular God figure - is just that: faith.
And faith is a set of interlocking subjective beliefs about something you may well be certain about but you cannot demonstrate the truth of, small T or capital T.
31 Jul 22
@fmf saidOh, when you talk about it all, it is factual, no one can know anything about the supernatural except what you tell us.
Well, if it were an objective fact that I was going to be tortured in burning flames for eternity, then you would simply demonstrate the truth of it to me.
But you can't, can you? Your faith - about rewards and punishments for believing/not-believing in your particular God figure - is just that: faith.
And faith is a set of interlocking subjective beliefs about something you may well be certain about but you cannot demonstrate the truth of, small T or capital T.
@kellyjay saidDon't be puerile. We're BOTH just sharing our subjective opinions. I haven't denied that your faith is real and that you are being earnest. Having said that, you are using the word "know" in a propagandizing way. So, then, what do you think you achieve, discourse-wise, when you give truth a capital T?
Oh, when you talk about it all, it is factual, no one can know anything about the supernatural except what you tell us.
31 Jul 22
@fmf saidThere is the only truth, and that which isn't, you can put T on it, or no, it doesn't matter.
Don't be puerile. We're BOTH just sharing our subjective opinions. I haven't denied that your faith is real and that you are being earnest. Having said that, you are using the word "know" in a propagandizing way. So, then, what do you think you achieve, discourse-wise, when you give truth a capital T?
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31 Jul 22
@kellyjay saidKellyjay…?
There is the only truth, and that which isn't, you can put T on it, or no, it doesn't matter.
Fifth time of asking.
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
31 Jul 22
@divegeester saidYou see how this works, I answered you, you keep asking as if I never did, so it is
Kellyjay…?
Fifth time of asking.
When you talk to your neighbours about Jesus and how he will be overseeing them being burnt in hell for eternity if they don’t repent and love him… what kind of responses do you get?
meaningless to answer you; you don't take answers for answers.
01 Aug 22
@KingDavid403
Ok, the Koran addresses messianic prophecy? Divinely inspired thought ended after the last disciples had recorded from firsthand account. Sure, if they have an alternate view then it's not setting the record straight.