@sonship saidI am an atheist. Whatever effect my former beliefs might have had on my behaviour and my demeanour is moot and not something I need to describe or explain. Your claims are claims you are making about yourself today.
And I point out that evidence that you once had the supernatural rebirth and lost it, you don't provide.
@sonship saidGive it a try anyway. What do you believe is "acceptable evidence" that you have become more like the most morally perfect man in human history and that he is "flowing through" you? There must surely be some impact - that is witnessable to people other than yourself - on your behaviour, your demeanour, your integrity and your morality, right?
Your vested interest is to hold to no possible acceptable evidence could be for one claiming to live in God's presence.
@secondson saidWhat account name were you posting under back when Grampy Bobby was posting?
You pick on the meek because you think they're weak. Like the way you and your cronies ground GB to the death in here.
Now you're trying to do it to sonship. It's pathetic to watch.
@fmf saidHave to admit the same thought crossed my mind. Been a good long time since GB was active here.
What account name were you posting under back when Grampy Bobby was posting?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidAnd there was nothing unusual or untoward happening when he was. I think he was last active on the Spirituality Forum in about mid-2016.
Have to admit the same thought crossed my mind. Been a good long time since GB was active here.
@sonship saidAnother dodge by you.
@FMFI am asking you what evidence you think you have. Don't fret and fumble over whether or not I will "approve".
Evidence that you were once a Christian. Don't fret or fumble that Christians here won't approve.
I am here to discuss my current beliefs and the current beliefs of the people I encounter.
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@FMF
If you want to taste the evidence yourself I started a thread with some helpful suggestions how.
I said "helpful suggestions" not a computer like flowchart.
If you're not in the least interested in the Spirit of Christ being imparted to you at all, in no uncertain terms - I don't like to throw my pearls before the wolves that trample them and turn and attack.
And the goading to brag and boast tends to have an opposite effect on me if you haven't guessed by now.
Debate and general discussion ...
The guidelines here is general discussion and debate. You don't have to DEBATE everything. Some things we can just discuss. If you don't take it then you just don't take it.
So for the next fourteen times you intend to ask me for evidence for my personal experience of sanctification for your examination, remember that. Or don't, either way is OK with me.
@sonship saidWhat evidence do you offer that the Spirit of Christ has been imparted to you?
If you're not in the least interested in the Spirit of Christ being imparted to you at all, in no uncertain terms - I don't like to throw my pearls before the wolves that trample them and turn and attack.
You claim two processes - becoming and flowing - both suggesting change - where's the evidence of change?
I've known you for over ten years. You have been more joyless, more vain, more vituperative, and generally "smaller" over the last 2-3 years than before [please note I am not saying your ideas are faeces or that you are spreading germs, ok?].
So where's the evidence of supernatural change? Where's the becoming more like Jesus? Where's the Jesus flowing through you? Where's the evidence?
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@FMF
Not withstanding your elaborate ad homs, in the last ten years do you recall me writing this ?
If you're not in the least interested in the Spirit of Christ being imparted to you at all, in no uncertain terms - I don't like to throw my pearls before the wolves that trample them and turn and attack.
@sonship saidYes.
I confess joy in being a Christian. FMF says no, he knows me better, and I am joyless.
Then he wonders why I say I'd rather be dead then have his mind the way it thinks.
Seems clear enough to me. Who should I believe, my own experience or him?
You both have your own spiritual paths.