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Government, man's replacement for God

Government, man's replacement for God

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@whodey said
I don't mean to demonize government, rather, I'm demonizing idolatry which is anything that replaces the role of God.
I don't see this happening here where I am. Are you talking about stuff people are saying on Fox & Friends and/or the Alex Jones show?


@whodey said
Put another way, if your reaction to an election is this, perhaps you have a lose screw or two loose and take these results too seriously as to your ultimate welfare.
Gosh. Have you found a YouTube clip of someone with "a screw loose"? Who'd have thought?

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@whodey said
Put another way, if your reaction to an election is this, perhaps you have a lose screw or two loose and take these results too seriously as to your ultimate welfare.

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Were you busy dancing in the streets?

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@whodey said
I don't mean to demonize government, rather, I'm demonizing idolatry which is anything that replaces the role of God.

For example, it is obvious that through the example of Christ that we are not told to defy the ruling powers.

Romans 13:1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

Roma ...[text shortened]... s would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."
"... Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's." -- Matthew 22:21, KJV



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She gets Marx's Das Kapital confused with the Bible all the time.

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Government is obviously Caesar's. Therefore universal healthcare is a government issue.

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@whodey said
She gets Marx's Das Kapital confused with the Bible all the time.
Do you get the Constitution confused with the Bible?

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@whodey said
1. Omnipresent/omniscient. The state is increasingly everywhere and monitoring everything you do so that none of us have any secrets any longer. After all, what do you have to hide?

2. Greatest source of wisdom. This results in the state becoming ever increasingly all knowing, with the assumption that once all knowing, the wisdom to deal with such knowledge will just c ...[text shortened]... h care and with no hope. The state, therefore, is the source of all "love" and only source of hope.
This is so full of nonsense one hardly knows where to begin, but here's a couple of points;

'Science is not a source of wisdom.' We discover, we learn, we become wiser.

'All evolution is to our benefit.' Not necessarily, evolution is blind, unconscious and unthinking.


@whodey said
1. Omnipresent/omniscient. The state is increasingly everywhere and monitoring everything you do so that none of us have any secrets any longer. After all, what do you have to hide?

2. Greatest source of wisdom. This results in the state becoming ever increasingly all knowing, with the assumption that once all knowing, the wisdom to deal with such knowledge will just c ...[text shortened]... h care and with no hope. The state, therefore, is the source of all "love" and only source of hope.
Oh, just for fun:

1) If you are worried about the NSA just ditch electronic communication. Move to a log cabin or tent in the woods - under cover of foliage so you're invisible to satellites - and don't go anywhere where there's likely to be CCTV.

2) The traditional repositories of knowledge, for the last 900 years in my country, have been universities. I don't believe anyone intends to change this.

3) I'm British, we've got a Queen. She's a constitutional monarch. It works fairly well. We don't have a clear division between the legislature and the executive either. That works quite well too. It's quite hard to be a despot here and keep one's head.

4) Why are you trying to escape the clutches of the law? Is there something to which you need to confess? What have you done whodey?

5) The advantage of the State doing it is that it tends to mean that help is provided by professionals who are accountable and not amateurs, especially ones who have an agenda that goes beyond what the needy actually need.


@deepthought said
Oh, just for fun:

1) If you are worried about the NSA just ditch electronic communication. Move to a log cabin or tent in the woods - under cover of foliage so you're invisible to satellites - and don't go anywhere where there's likely to be CCTV.

2) The traditional repositories of knowledge, for the last 900 years in my country, have been universities. I don't be ...[text shortened]... and not amateurs, especially ones who have an agenda that goes beyond what the needy actually need.
Here in the states we don't have a king or queen. Our government exist by, for and of the will of the people. We will not tolerate despotism and tyrannical rule by a bunch of elitist who think they know better what's good for the people.

When the government fails to serve the people, at the behest of the people, it is our constitutional right to revolt, and revolt is just around the corner.


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Daniel 4:17
This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.

Paul was beheaded for civil disobedience as were all the apostles. The commandment of scripture is to be subject to the powers that be, but there is a higher law. When the powers that be attempt to supersede God's commandments, then "rendering" is no longer possible.

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@secondson said
When the government fails to serve the people, atthe behest of the people, it is our constitutional right to revolt, and revolt is just around the corner.
Is "revolt ... just around the corner" a metaphor for the general election in November 2020?