Gravity: fact or faith?

Originally posted by black beetle
The force of attraction between bodies –related also to the space curvature-, indicates that there is a link between matter and space, otherwise the space curves wouldn’t be proportional to the amount of matter in a gravitational field. However I don’t know which way space is connected to matter although I know that space/ energy created matter. Therefo ...[text shortened]... t our Agerg tries to tell you; if I understood him well, I agree with him.


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I don't disagree with what you post here, but the initial motivation for this thread was to undermine the fundie's attempt to cheapen evolution as "just a theory" when in fact evolution holding that status is very profound indeed. In a strict sense however, whatever laws of gravity we hold to be true have not and never will be proven - though defending that position was more a means to fend off the theist's objections than as a means to advance a grave concern about how the universe operates.

Originally posted by Agerg
I don't disagree with what you post here, but the initial motivation for this thread was to undermine the fundie's attempt to cheapen evolution as "just a theory" when in fact evolution holding that status is very profound indeed. In a strict sense however, whatever laws of gravity we hold to be true have not and never will be proven - though defending that po ...[text shortened]... st's objections than as a means to advance a grave concern about how the universe operates.

Apparently you have failed. There is a Law of Gravity.
There is no "law of evolution", only a theory and a poor
one at that.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you have failed. There is a Law of Gravity.
There is no "law of evolution", only a theory and a poor
one at that.

http://www.rattlesnake.com/notions/evolution.html

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you have failed. There is a Law of Gravity.
There is no "law of evolution", only a theory and a poor
one at that.

“...There is no "law of evolution", ..”

whether you call it a "Law" or not, there is “evolution” that has been proven to exist.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you have failed. There is a Law of Gravity.
There is no "law of evolution", only a theory and a poor
one at that.

Evolution has as much claim to word "law" as gravity does. That evolution has and continues to occur is firmly established. That this runs counter to the "talking snake theory" is your problem not ours.

Oh and the idea that the laws of gravity hold is...ahem....(wait for it)...only a theory!! 😵

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you have failed. There is a Law of Gravity.
There is no "law of evolution", only a theory and a poor
one at that.

How do you know it's a 'poor theory'?

Specifics please Mr Hinds.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
http://www.rattlesnake.com/notions/evolution.html

So someone thinks there five laws of evolution now.
This is just more of the same nonsense coming from
the evolution fundies.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
“...There is no "law of evolution", ..”

whether you call it a "Law" or not, there is “evolution” that has been proven to exist.

Yes, the theory of evolution does exist.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
How do you know it's a 'poor theory'?

Specifics please Mr Hinds.

That is my opinion only. I am not speaking for anyone else.
If you want to believe it's a law, I can't stop you. You can believe
whatever you want.

Originally posted by RJHinds
That is my opinion only. I am not speaking for anyone else.
If you want to believe it's a law, I can't stop you. You can believe
whatever you want.

Yes, i know it's your opinion.

I was asking you to elaborate on what particular part of evolution you find poor and why?!

Originally posted by RJHinds
Yes, the theory of evolution does exist.

...and the process of evolution (which is what I was referring to)

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Yes, i know it's your opinion.

I was asking you to elaborate on what particular part of evolution you find poor and why?!

I've been over this with you before. No since repeating myself.
You are going to believe in evolution anyway.

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
...and the process of evolution (which is what I was referring to)

I only believe in adaptation and mutation within kinds.
I do not believe it is possible for evolution from one kind
to another. I've told you this before.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I only believe in adaptation and mutation within kinds.
I do not believe it is possible for evolution from one kind
to another. I've told you this before.

Just to be clear, do you think that evolution says that donkeys can give birth to crocodiles and such??

Originally posted by RJHinds
I've been over this with you before. No since repeating myself.
You are going to believe in evolution anyway.

I don't recall going over why you think evolution is a poor theory with you. In fact, as i recall in our conversations on the subject, you stated you had never read anything on the subject. How do you know which parts are 'poor' when you don't know anything about it?!

In fact, when i explained how evolution works to you, you agreed with everything i wrote?!