Gravity: fact or faith?

Gravity: fact or faith?

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Day in day out there's always someone droning on about the theory of gravity. But so what!??

It's only a theory! Perhaps the next time you fall over you'll float off into the sky, science can't prove 100% this won't happen!

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Originally posted by Agerg
Day in day out there's always someone droning on about the theory of gravity. But so what!??

[b]It's only a theory!
Perhaps the next time you fall over you'll float off into the sky, science can't prove 100% this won't happen![/b]
Don't need science to prove it.

It's a fact. Jump off a cliff and you're going to fall.

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Originally posted by josephw
Don't need science to prove it.

It's a fact. Jump off a cliff and you're going to fall.
How do you know? have you ever jumped off a cliff before? Have you jumped off all cliffs to check that some of them aren't special? 😕

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Originally posted by josephw
Don't need science to prove it.

It's a fact. Jump off a cliff and you're going to fall.
That is science.
You test a premise - if I jump off a cliff I will fall - and come to a conclusion - something is pulling me down.

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Originally posted by Agerg
How do you know? have you ever jumped off a cliff before? Have you jumped off all cliffs to check that some of them aren't special? 😕
The very idea that one would not fall if one jumped out of an airplane, anywhere, at any time, is an idea born of relativism.

That idea belies modern thought, which has eroded from its basis in reality.

A reality that has been undercut by mysticism and science fiction.

Can you understand Agerg?

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Originally posted by amannion
That [b]is science.
You test a premise - if I jump off a cliff I will fall - and come to a conclusion - something is pulling me down.[/b]
It is a fact that if one jumps off a cliff they will fall.

Don't need science to prove that.

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Originally posted by josephw
The very idea that one would not fall if one jumped out of an airplane, anywhere, at any time, is an idea born of relativism.

That idea belies modern thought, which has eroded from its basis in reality.

A reality that has been undercut by mysticism and science fiction.

Can you understand Agerg?
So you haven't jumped off a cliff before then; and so you don't actually know whether you'd fall or not!
Indeed you haven't got any evidence that for some cliff *you* might jump off in the future, you'd fall.
Science hasn't proven you will always fall if you jump off cliffs because

Gravity is just a theory!

nothing more; and as a theory it could equally well be replaced tomorrow by the theory of invisible elastic.

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Originally posted by josephw
It is a fact that if one jumps off a cliff they will fall.

Don't need science to prove that.
And I'll say it again, this 'fact' is science.

You start with a question - what will happen if someone jumps off a cliff?
You test it - throw someone off.
You get a result - they fall.
You can test it again - throw someone else off.
And again, and again and again ....
You're building a phenomenon here that it would be good to explain - perhaps it's only people that fall? You throw other objects and they too fall. Perhaps it only happens during the day? You try at other times, same result. And so on and on ...
Eventually you come to realise that this will happen every time, and in every different permutation.

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Originally posted by amannion
And I'll say it again, this 'fact' is science.

You start with a question - what will happen if someone jumps off a cliff?
You test it - throw someone off.
You get a result - they fall.
You can test it again - throw someone else off.
And again, and again and again ....
You're building a phenomenon here that it would be good to explain - perhaps it's ...[text shortened]... y you come to realise that this will happen every time, and in every different permutation.
So when did 'science' discover this fact?

ROFLMAO

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Originally posted by Agerg
Day in day out there's always someone droning on about the theory of gravity. But so what!??

[b]It's only a theory!
Perhaps the next time you fall over you'll float off into the sky, science can't prove 100% this won't happen![/b]
its not a theory its a law: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/newtongrav.html

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Originally posted by josephw
So when did 'science' discover this fact?

ROFLMAO
Science isn't a person.
Science doesn't 'do' anything.
Science is a process, an approach to understanding the world.
We do it.
Every day, we do it.
When my kid goes for a ride on his bike, he's doing it.
When you drive your car, you're doing it.

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Originally posted by Doward
its not a theory its a law: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/newtongrav.html
Arbitrary assignment of the word "law". Evolution also gets that appellation.

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Originally posted by Agerg
Arbitrary assignment of the word "law". Evolution also gets that appellation.
its a law because its mathematically provable

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Originally posted by Doward
its a law because its mathematically provable
Mathematics only "proves it" for a phenomenon strictly fitting a particular mathematical model - no one has proved that gravity *is* such a phenomenon - there may well be special cases, like for example, wearing red jumper and jumping off a cliff whilst on a pogo stick singing 13 green bottles for which it fails.

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Originally posted by Agerg
How do you know? have you ever jumped off a cliff before? Have you jumped off all cliffs to check that some of them aren't special? 😕
Yes several times as we go driving into the water, we always fall down into the
water. I have yet gone up and kept going. 🙂
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