Gravity: fact or faith?

Originally posted by Agerg
Just to be clear, do you think that evolution says that donkeys can give birth to crocodiles and such??

No. I hope not.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I don't recall going over why you think evolution is a poor theory with you. In fact, as i recall in our conversations on the subject, you stated you had never read anything on the subject. How do you know which parts are 'poor' when you don't know anything about it?!

In fact, when i explained how evolution works to you, you agreed with everything i wrote?!

That is not exactly the way I remember it.
But I don't have the time or inclination to
repeat myself and I've got some work I must
do now. So I must leave this forum at this time.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I only believe in adaptation and mutation within kinds.
I do not believe it is possible for evolution from one kind
to another. I've told you this before.

By “kinds” I assume you mean “species”?
If so, then, given that microevolution is just a series of mutations selected by natural selection to give rise to an adaptation, I take it you are saying that microevolution happens but not macroevolution?
If so, since a macroevolution event is just a series of microevolution events happening to the same lineage of living thing, what barrier is stopping a series of microevolution events continuing until they become a macroevolution event? (answer, no barrier).

Originally posted by Andrew Hamilton
By “kinds” I assume you mean “species”?

No, I am afraid he doesn't. He means a broader grouping of life forms as mentioned in the Bible (but not clearly defined as far as I know). The important thing though is that the Bible says 'each according to its kind'.
Of course the Bible predates the word 'species' which is after all a man made classification term.

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, I am afraid he doesn't. He means a broader grouping of life forms as mentioned in the Bible (but not clearly defined as far as I know). The important thing though is that the Bible says 'each according to its kind'.
Of course the Bible predates the word 'species' which is after all a man made classification term.

I think "kind" is more or less the same as "family", at least for dogs and cats.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Almost 100% because some other force could counter the force
of gravity or God could intervene. Is that correct?

Almost 100% because the space curves in our area are relatively stable. "God's intervention" is a notion that makes no sense to me
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Originally posted by Agerg
I don't disagree with what you post here, but the initial motivation for this thread was to undermine the fundie's attempt to cheapen evolution as "just a theory" when in fact evolution holding that status is very profound indeed. In a strict sense however, whatever laws of gravity we hold to be true have not and never will be proven - though defending that po ...[text shortened]... st's objections than as a means to advance a grave concern about how the universe operates.

Clear
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Originally posted by Agerg
Is it considered bad satire if those whom you actually agree with and are meant to see straight through the charade think you're being deadly serious? 😕

Not necessarily. Satire's difficult on here, even when you choose an example (as you did) that is clear enough that one would think it unlikely to be taken seriously. Those of us who know you got it. 🙂

[Well there was the possibility that you are no longer really Agerg, but have become possessed.... 😉 ]

Originally posted by black beetle
Almost 100% because the space curves in our area are relatively stable. "God's intervention" is a notion that makes no sense to me
😵

Apparently you are just arrogant enough to dismiss God
as being of little importance.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you are just arrogant enough to dismiss God
as being of little importance.

Apparently I evaluate the invention of "God" as an ill considered product of theoplacia
😵

Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you are just arrogant enough to dismiss God
as being of little importance.

You flatter your notion of god too much when you introduce the qualifier: "little"

Much better would be "no" ;] Reveal Hidden Content

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Apparently you are just arrogant enough to dismiss God
as being of little importance.

Can you even acknowledge ,on some verbal level prefferably, that the god of the bible is not the only idea of god that humans have dreamt up?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Can you even acknowledge ,on some verbal level prefferably, that the god of the bible is not the only idea of god that humans have dreamt up?

I believe the God of the Holy Bible is the only God that was not
dreamed up. The Christian idea of God is the only true idea of
God. I believe all other ideas of God are distortions.

Originally posted by RJHinds
I believe the God of the Holy Bible is the only God that was not
dreamed up. The Christian idea of God is the only true idea of
God. I believe all other ideas of God are distortions.

What a coincidence! Out of all the thousands of gods that have been made up by humans throughout the ages, the religion you were indoctrinated with happens to be the truth 😞

Originally posted by Agerg
What a coincidence! Out of all the thousands of gods that have been made up by humans throughout the ages, the religion you were indoctrinated with happens to be the truth 😞

Yes, I was lucky.