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Originally posted by googlefudgePrynne's a poet (ensconced in Cambridge, feeding off the occult energy grid laid down by the Royal Society). If anyone can express a random, fluctuating quantum sensibility, it's him. (Pratchett is the sensible prose alternative).
no I haven't heard of him/her. The random fluctuations bit was a reference to a line from one of the discworld novels. (auther Terry Pratchet for anyone wondering)
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Originally posted by FreakyKBHJust because you call theology "science" doesn't mean that it is.
Theology is an exacting science, requiring more advanced schooling than most degrees to be considered accomplished.
The Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary comes up with this definition of "science"
"(knowledge obtained from) the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical world, especially by observing, measuring and experimenting, and the development of theories to describe the results of these activities"
Theology does not measure or observe, it merely theorises (and I mean that in the common usage, not the scientific usage, of the word) about the properties of either God or religious systems based upon their texts.
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Originally posted by scottishinnzReally? How about studies done that show a dramatic correlation of longer life for regular church goers?
Just because you call theology "science" doesn't mean that it is.
The Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary comes up with this definition of "science"
"(knowledge obtained from) the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the [b]physical world, especially by observing, measuring and experimenting, and the development of theories to the word) about the properties of either God or religious systems based upon their texts.[/b]
http://washingtontimes.com/world/2004/226-104514-3168r.htm
How about studies done that show a dramatic increase in recovery time in hospitals due to prayer interventions
http://ijahsp.nova.edu/articles/Vol2num1/kutz-prayer.htm
As far as my own life goes I have observed dramatic differences in my own life. I am more optimistic and tend to desire to not engage in activities that I may have previously done before coming to Christ that would be considered high risk in terms of health ect. My relationships also have became more meaningful and fulfilling. Are these not observations of the physical world? Granted it goes deeper than merely studing the physical world and therefore goes deeper than science can venture.
Originally posted by whodeyA link to nothing. Thanks.
Really? How about studies done that show a dramatic correlation of longer life for regular church goers?
http://washingtontimes.com/world/2004/226-104514-3168r.htm
How about studies done that show a dramatic increase in recovery time in hospitals due to prayer interventions
http://ijahsp.nova.edu/articles/Vol2num1/kutz-prayer.htm
As far as my own ...[text shortened]... eeper than merely studing the physical world and therefore goes deeper than science can venture.
What about all the other characteristics that are different between church goers and everyone else. Most people who go to church tend to be older. They probably are more affluent, they probably drink and smoke less than Joe Q Public. None of these things have got anything to do with religion per se, unless of course, you are suggesting that these same people would drink and smoke more if they didn't go to church, for which you have no evidence.
Irrespective, these studies are science, but theology is not.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageI'm not much of a populist: the mob is so readily swayed. Out of curiosity, which of the disciplines does the mob currently hold to as being the "highest?"
Your tactic is succeeding. I'll give it one last shot:
Why does theology not occupy the prestigious position it did in the Middle Ages, when it was regarded by academics and the general population as the highest discipline, aka the "Queen of the sciences"?
