Originally posted by robbie carrobie I am that I am does not even make sense in English never mind from the original Hebrew. Another epic fail Jonah Hinds.
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. Pslam 83:18 King James version.
Yes it does. Isn't English your first language? Modern translations have it "I AM who I AM". Does that make sense to you?
In Hebrew the words are written from right to left without vowels. God's name in English from the Hebrew is widely accepted to be YHWH. Since the Jews would not pronounce the name of God but instead replaced it with Adoni, meaning Lord, the King James translators tried to place those vowels in the name of God YHWH to reconstruct the name. Not only did they put the vowels in backward, but by that time the letter "J" had become widely used instead of Y. They also believed the "W" should be pronounced as a "V" so they came up with JEHOVAH instead of YAHOWEH.
We know the beginning of the name is pronounced "YAH" because of the pronunciation of halleluYAH, which is always translated in English as praise the Lord. With Lord or YAH in this case being the one being praised.
Originally posted by RJHinds Yes it does. Isn't English your first language? Modern translations have it "I AM who I AM". Does that make sense to you?
In Hebrew the words are written from right to left without vowels. God's name in English from the Hebrew is widely accepted to be YHWH. Since the Jews would not pronounce the name of God but instead replaced it with Adoni, meaning Lor ...[text shortened]... lated in English as praise the Lord. With Lord or YAH in this case being the one being praised.
so, what's your point? In Finnish they call Him Umallah. He knows all the languages as He created them. He also knows if we are calling on Him and obeying Him as the True God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus or not. We do not know exactly how His name is pronounced but we will one day.
The important thing is to use that Name wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by roigam so, what's your point? In Finnish they call Him Umallah. He knows all the languages as He created them. He also knows if we are calling on Him and obeying Him as the True God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus or not. We do not know exactly how His name is pronounced but we will one day.
The important thing is to use that Name wouldn't you agree?
Originally posted by RJHinds Not Jehovah because it is clearly wrong.
Do you seriously think a deity would worry about what word you used to reference it?
Again with the anthropomorphisms. Humans making a god with human attributes.
OF COURSE the bible would say god created man in its own image, since humans wrote that trash, they, the writers, were pretty sure people would fall for that crap hook line and sinker.
They were very smart, the original writers of the bible. They knew just what to say to set up a religion that controls people and 'accidentally' puts women on a lower shelf. Another reason a deity had nothing to do with either Judaism, Christianity or Islam.
Originally posted by Shallow Blue Of course not - but it does showcase a serious problem with the people who insist that His name is (and exclusively is) *Jehovah.
In other words, the problem isn't with Jahweh, it's with the Jehovahs.
When Jesus said, (Matthew 6:9, 10) “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let "your name" be sanctified. 10 Let "your Kingdom" come. Let "your will" take place, as in heaven, also on earth.
Who's name and Kingdom and will do you think he was talking about?
Remember, Jesus was a Jew.
Originally posted by roigam When Jesus said, (Matthew 6:9, 10) “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let "your name" be sanctified. 10 Let "your Kingdom" come. Let "your will" take place, as in heaven, also on earth.
Who's name and Kingdom and will do you think he was talking about?
Remember, Jesus was a Jew.
Jesus said "Hallowed be thy name". The definition of "hallowed" is "regarded as holy; venerated; sacred". Does using this name as the "brand" of your church venerate or revere God, or does it simply serve as a name to take in vain when talking about yourselves?
God said many times, in effect, "tell them I AM sent you". We talk about the Lord, or the Father, because calling him "I AM" would be too awkward in everyday use.
Originally posted by Suzianne Jesus said "Hallowed be thy name". The definition of "hallowed" is "regarded as holy; venerated; sacred". Does using this name as the "brand" of your church venerate or revere God, or does it simply serve as a name to take in vain when talking about yourselves?
God said many times, in effect, "tell them I AM sent you". We talk about the Lord, or the Father, because calling him "I AM" would be too awkward in everyday use.
Forms of the divine name in different languages, indicating international acceptance of the form Jehovah
Awabakal - Yehóa
Bugotu - Jihova
Cantonese - Yehwowah
Danish - Jehova
Dutch - Jehovah
Efik - Jehovah
English - Jehovah
Fijian - Jiova
Finnish - Jehova
French - Jéhovah
Futuna - Ihova
German - Jehova
Hungarian - Jehova
Igbo - Jehova
Italian - Geova
Japanese - Ehoba
Maori - Ihowa
Motu - Iehova
Mwala-Malu - Jihova
Narrinyeri - Jehovah
Nembe - Jihova
Petats - Jihouva
Polish - Jehowa
Portuguese - Jeová
Romanian - Iehova
Samoan - Ieova
Sotho - Jehova
Spanish - Jehová
Swahili - Yehova
Swedish - Jehova
Tahitian - Iehova
Tagalog - Jehova
Tongan - Jihova
Venda - Yehova
Xhosa - uYehova
Yoruba - Jehofah
Zulu - uJehova
Since English is the most widely used language we use the English form of God's Name.
Originally posted by roigam Forms of the divine name in different languages, indicating international acceptance of the form Jehovah
Since English is the most widely used language we use the English form of God's Name.
Um, wait just a minute here.
What you mean is that this is a list of the name Jehovah in different languages. That's a far cry from "The Name of God" in different languages.
*Of course* this shows "international acceptance" of the NAME Jehovah, since it IS a list of the NAME Jehovah in different languages. It shows absolutely NOTHING about the "international acceptance" of Jehovah as the NAME of God.
Originally posted by Suzianne Um, wait just a minute here.
What you mean is that this is a list of the name Jehovah in different languages. That's a far cry from "The Name of God" in different languages.
*Of course* this shows "international acceptance" of the NAME Jehovah, since it IS a list of the NAME Jehovah in different languages. It shows absolutely NOTHING about the "international acceptance" of Jehovah as the NAME of God.
that doesn't even merit a response. that's just total avoidance.
Originally posted by sonhouse Do you seriously think a deity would worry about what word you used to reference it?
Again with the anthropomorphisms. Humans making a god with human attributes.
OF COURSE the bible would say god created man in its own image, since humans wrote that trash, they, the writers, were pretty sure people would fall for that crap hook line and sinker.
Th ...[text shortened]... ower shelf. Another reason a deity had nothing to do with either Judaism, Christianity or Islam.
Originally posted by roigam Forms of the divine name in different languages, indicating international acceptance of the form Jehovah
Awabakal - Yehóa
Bugotu - Jihova
Cantonese - Yehwowah
Danish - Jehova
Dutch - Jehovah
Efik - Jehovah
English - Jehovah
Fijian - Jiova
Finnish - Jehova
French - Jéhovah
Futuna - Ihova
German - Jehova
Hungarian - Jehova
Igbo - Jehova
Italian - ...[text shortened]... - uJehova
Since English is the most widely used language we use the English form of God's Name.
Originally posted by RJHinds The ones you listed are all wrong. 😏
why? because you don't accept them? you disrespect all the other people of all the other languages who do accept Jehovah (English form) as their God.
Choose for yourself.
(Joshua 24:15) Now if it seems bad to you to serve Jehovah, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve, whether the gods that your forefathers served on the other side of the River or the gods of the Amʹor·ites in whose land you are dwelling. But as for me and my household, we will serve Jehovah.”
Originally posted by roigam why? because you don't accept them? you disrespect all the other people of all the other languages who do accept Jehovah (English form) as their God.
Choose for yourself.
(Joshua 24:15) Now if it seems bad to you to serve Jehovah, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve, whether the gods that your forefathers served on the other side of the River o ...[text shortened]... ʹor·ites in whose land you are dwelling. But as for me and my household, we will serve Jehovah.”
Hallelujah
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